Agreed - .Net is growing while Java is stuck with an overcomplexity learning curve that only big shops can afford to climb.

JSP, in and of itself, is trash. This has been known and widely agreed upon since about year 2000. Sun had 7 years to dump it, but why haven't they? Backward compatibility is not the answer for something as broken and as damaging...]]> Fri, 25 May 2007 13:46:34 -0400 Fri, 25 May 2007 13:46:34 -0400 Fri, 25 May 2007 13:46:34 -0400 May 25, 2007 Leo Lipelis 0 http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=45519 Yes, but they only make sense within a particular harness. And this harness is more often than not the concept of a "step in a process" which people translate to "a panel" or "a page" in almost all cases I came across....]]> Thu, 24 May 2007 17:35:34 -0400 Thu, 24 May 2007 17:35:34 -0400 Thu, 24 May 2007 17:35:34 -0400 May 24, 2007 Eelco Hillenius 0 http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=45519 If you were programming with .NET you would not have asked these questions ;-) And by the way, .NET 2.0 has login component, signup wizard, and many other reusable components with only minor possibility to change look&feel, and .NET...]]> Thu, 24 May 2007 15:32:19 -0400 Thu, 24 May 2007 15:32:19 -0400 Thu, 24 May 2007 15:32:19 -0400 May 24, 2007 Werner Punz 0 http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=45519 JSP, in and of itself, is trash. This has been known and widely agreed upon since about year 2000. Sun had 7 years to dump it, but why haven't they? Backward compatibility is not the answer for something as broken and as damaging as...]]> Thu, 24 May 2007 15:24:54 -0400 Thu, 24 May 2007 15:24:54 -0400 Thu, 24 May 2007 15:24:54 -0400 May 24, 2007 Michael Jouravlev 1 http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=45519 This is -- you get it -- by using JSP itself. Why would I want to, say, configure a component with something like XML config file, if I can go directly into JSP file and change what I needed, and then just reload a page? The beauty of plain...]]> Thu, 24 May 2007 13:48:27 -0400 Thu, 24 May 2007 13:48:27 -0400 Thu, 24 May 2007 13:48:27 -0400 May 24, 2007 Mike Youngstrom 0 http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=45519 ...]]> Thu, 24 May 2007 13:30:15 -0400 Thu, 24 May 2007 13:30:15 -0400 Thu, 24 May 2007 13:30:15 -0400 May 24, 2007 Spencer Uresk 0 http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=45519

Before the TSS publishes an article like this they should make sure the author has a clue about what they're writing about....]]> Thu, 24 May 2007 12:59:58 -0400 Thu, 24 May 2007 12:59:58 -0400 Thu, 24 May 2007 12:59:58 -0400 May 24, 2007 Michael Jouravlev 3 http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=45519 Look how confident is the committer of JSF in this thread. To paraphrase him: JSF 1.1 was buggy. JSF 1.2 is "good enough".

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Both are bloated technologies … Always there where better solutions like template
based renderers like Freemarker or Velocity combined with Apache ECS, JSP+Custom Tags based on template rendering and widget api –...]]> Thu, 24 May 2007 12:09:33 -0400 Thu, 24 May 2007 12:09:33 -0400 Thu, 24 May 2007 12:09:33 -0400 May 24, 2007 vijay mippu 1 http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=45519

PHP is the solution of choice for relaying mysql errors to web users.

You might enjoy a YouTube video about PHP that was broadcast at RailsConf last...]]> Thu, 24 May 2007 11:45:35 -0400 Thu, 24 May 2007 11:45:35 -0400 Thu, 24 May 2007 11:45:35 -0400 May 24, 2007 Justin Lee 0