Support Forums: Message List - Article: JBoss Seam: A "Deep Integration" Framework http://www.theserverside.com Most recent forum messages en Jive Forums Silver 5.5.30 (www.jivesoftware.com) Sun, 19 May 2013 01:14:02 -0400 Re: Different tools for different jobs http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=46354 Tue, 14 Aug 2007 15:59:14 -0400 Tue, 14 Aug 2007 15:59:14 -0400 Tue, 14 Aug 2007 15:59:14 -0400 Aug 14, 2007 Peter Mularien 0 Re: Okey, the core of all this ... http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=46354 The trouble is that you were NOT using the "holistic" solution. Instead you wanted to do things your own way and:...]]> Sun, 05 Aug 2007 03:50:19 -0400 Sun, 05 Aug 2007 03:50:19 -0400 Sun, 05 Aug 2007 03:50:19 -0400 Aug 5, 2007 Henri Karapuu 0 Re: Seam @ Any app server == marketing BS http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=46354 My question for you is, should we make it as easy as possible on JBoss/Tomcat? Less steps and less configuration there? While requiring more steps on platforms we have less control over? Or is vanilla, standard Java EE what we should focus...]]> Sun, 05 Aug 2007 02:34:29 -0400 Sun, 05 Aug 2007 02:34:29 -0400 Sun, 05 Aug 2007 02:34:29 -0400 Aug 5, 2007 Henri Karapuu 0 Re: Okey, the core of all this ... http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=46354 I think the main difference between our thinkings is that i take much more holistic view. SEAM's main claim to fame is ease of development, and that is what i'm evaluating, as a *whole*....]]> Sat, 04 Aug 2007 13:19:52 -0400 Sat, 04 Aug 2007 13:19:52 -0400 Sat, 04 Aug 2007 13:19:52 -0400 Aug 4, 2007 Gavin King 1 Re: Seam @ Any app server == marketing BS http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=46354
All of those things you just listed work perfectly out of the box with a seam-gen'd project, in Eclipse and NetBeans. If something is *not* working in IDEA

The project structure is impossible to setup as an IDEA...]]> Sat, 04 Aug 2007 08:32:10 -0400 Sat, 04 Aug 2007 08:32:10 -0400 Sat, 04 Aug 2007 08:32:10 -0400 Aug 4, 2007 Bill Burke 1 Okey, the core of all this ... http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=46354 And how the hell do the 3 app server deployment descriptors have anything at all to do with Seam??!!...]]> Sat, 04 Aug 2007 03:21:07 -0400 Sat, 04 Aug 2007 03:21:07 -0400 Sat, 04 Aug 2007 03:21:07 -0400 Aug 4, 2007 Henri Karapuu 2 Re: Seam @ Any app server == marketing BS http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=46354 All of those things you just listed work perfectly out of the box with a seam-gen'd project, in Eclipse and NetBeans. If something is *not* working in IDEA...]]> Sat, 04 Aug 2007 02:45:38 -0400 Sat, 04 Aug 2007 02:45:38 -0400 Sat, 04 Aug 2007 02:45:38 -0400 Aug 4, 2007 Henri Karapuu 2 Re: Seam @ Any app server == marketing BS http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=46354
Gavin King: Oh, come on, that's silly. There is no such thing as a "standard" directory/project structure, there is only an EE standard deployment archive structure (EAR)

Henri Karapuu: It does not...]]> Sat, 04 Aug 2007 00:23:12 -0400 Sat, 04 Aug 2007 00:23:12 -0400 Sat, 04 Aug 2007 00:23:12 -0400 Aug 4, 2007 Ian Hlavats 0 Re: Seam @ Any app server == marketing BS http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=46354 Many clients have strict guidelines for project structures, that just have to be followed, or then the process of changing their 'best practices' must be endured.
...]]> Fri, 03 Aug 2007 19:06:42 -0400 Fri, 03 Aug 2007 19:06:42 -0400 Fri, 03 Aug 2007 19:06:42 -0400 Aug 3, 2007 Gavin King 3 Re: Seam @ Any app server == marketing BS http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=46354 but I'm not really sure what it gains you compared to what is already possible with the standard seam-gen project structure....]]> Fri, 03 Aug 2007 16:47:57 -0400 Fri, 03 Aug 2007 16:47:57 -0400 Fri, 03 Aug 2007 16:47:57 -0400 Aug 3, 2007 Henri Karapuu 4 Re: Seam @ Any app server == marketing BS http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=46354 Fri, 03 Aug 2007 15:40:54 -0400 Fri, 03 Aug 2007 15:40:54 -0400 Fri, 03 Aug 2007 15:40:54 -0400 Aug 3, 2007 Gavin King 0 Re: Seam @ Any app server == marketing BS http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=46354
Oh, come on, that's silly. There is no such thing as a "standard" directory/project structure, there is only an EE standard deployment archive structure (EAR)


It does not matter if we call it a non-standard or...]]> Fri, 03 Aug 2007 14:38:59 -0400 Fri, 03 Aug 2007 14:38:59 -0400 Fri, 03 Aug 2007 14:38:59 -0400 Aug 3, 2007 Gavin King 7 Re: Re: Different tools for different jobs http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=46354

Of course, I can't publish these private emails, but here is a little taste, I hope the author does not mind:

After evaluating Spring, Struts 2.0, Tapestry, Wicket, Grails, etc., we're moving to Seam. We are...]]> Fri, 03 Aug 2007 10:37:27 -0400 Fri, 03 Aug 2007 10:37:27 -0400 Fri, 03 Aug 2007 10:37:27 -0400 Aug 3, 2007 stefano maestri 0 Re: Seam @ Any app server == marketing BS http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=46354 Oh, come on, that's silly. There is no such thing as a "standard" directory/project structure, there is only an EE standard deployment archive structure (EAR)
...]]> Fri, 03 Aug 2007 10:15:51 -0400 Fri, 03 Aug 2007 10:15:51 -0400 Fri, 03 Aug 2007 10:15:51 -0400 Aug 3, 2007 Henri Karapuu 8 Re: integration with wicket http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=46354
Excellent article, thanks!
I'm looking forward to see a good integration with Wicket.
Regards,

Flavio.


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