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        <title>Re: Weiqi Gao: The Number One Ill of Java</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=46430</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[<blockquote><blockquote>This was hard part for me when I jumped from C++ to Java that took me about .5 minutes to understand: the #include statement in C/C++ doesn't have the same effect as the #import statement in java.</blockquote><br><br>Hum,...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Wed, 08 Aug 2007 07:30:58 -0400</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Aug 8, 2007</jf:date>
        <jf:author>John Brand</jf:author>
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        <title>Re: Weiqi Gao: The Number One Ill of Java</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=46430</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[<blockquote>This was hard part for me when I jumped from C++ to Java that took me about .5 minutes to understand: the #include statement in C/C++ doesn't have the same effect as the #import statement in java.</blockquote>...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Tue, 07 Aug 2007 07:15:47 -0400</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Aug 7, 2007</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Yves Martin</jf:author>
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        <title>Re: Weiqi Gao: The Number One Ill of Java</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=46430</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[<blockquote><blockquote><blockquote>I have a directory full of Java sources right here. Why do I have to tell javac or my IDE that the sources are three directories up?</blockquote><br><br>javac -d<br><br>If you have been teaching java since -98 and...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Tue, 07 Aug 2007 03:40:43 -0400</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Aug 7, 2007</jf:date>
        <jf:author>John Brand</jf:author>
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        <title>Java do not force one package for directory</title>
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            <description><![CDATA[Java, as a language, do not force any directory structure. It is the compilation ...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Mon, 06 Aug 2007 08:51:47 -0400</pubDate>

        

        <jf:creationDate>Mon, 06 Aug 2007 08:51:47 -0400</jf:creationDate>
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        <jf:date>Aug 6, 2007</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Maurizio De Cecco</jf:author>
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        <title>Compile can't deal with the subtraction for you</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=46430</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[The problem is that array indexing is usually done through variables, which typically live on the stack.  There's really not much room for optimization in terms of subtracting, since the value can't be known until runtime.  Only compile time resolvable...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Fri, 03 Aug 2007 23:47:49 -0400</pubDate>

        

        <jf:creationDate>Fri, 03 Aug 2007 23:47:49 -0400</jf:creationDate>
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        <jf:date>Aug 3, 2007</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Matthew Inger</jf:author>
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        <title>Re: So... .NET got it right then?</title>
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            <description><![CDATA[<blockquote><blockquote>I've also worked in the .NET world where packages (namespaces) do not need to reflect the project structure and, in my opinion, it tends to lead to a bit of disorganized chaos because the directory hierarchy is not...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Fri, 03 Aug 2007 13:22:18 -0400</pubDate>

        

        <jf:creationDate>Fri, 03 Aug 2007 13:22:18 -0400</jf:creationDate>
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        <jf:date>Aug 3, 2007</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Mark N</jf:author>
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        <title>Re: Weiqi Gao: The Number One Ill of Java</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=46430</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[<blockquote><blockquote>I have a directory full of Java sources right here. Why do I have to tell javac or my IDE that the sources are three directories up?</blockquote><br><br>javac -d<br><br>If you have been teaching java since -98 and havent figured...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Fri, 03 Aug 2007 09:01:38 -0400</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Aug 3, 2007</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Cedric Rouvrais</jf:author>
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        <title>Re: Ill? I am not sure who is ill here</title>
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            <description><![CDATA[<blockquote>Imagine a scenario.<br>directory com.xxxx.dao.hib.impl contains XYZ.java<br><br>and I Can find that out by looking at the code.<br><br>But our talented friends says that he wants to by-heart the location.<br></blockquote>...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Fri, 03 Aug 2007 08:46:16 -0400</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Aug 3, 2007</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Cedric Rouvrais</jf:author>
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        <title>Re: Organization is a good thing</title>
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            <description><![CDATA[I just have to agree with the rest here. After 15+ years of c++ programming before starting java coding, i have nothing but good things to say about the directory structure / package structure connection. I wish C++ namespaces forced the same...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Fri, 03 Aug 2007 04:32:50 -0400</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Aug 3, 2007</jf:date>
        <jf:author>han theman</jf:author>
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        <title>Re: Weiqi Gao: The Number One Ill of Java</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=46430</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[<blockquote>I have a directory full of Java sources right here. Why do I have to tell javac or my IDE that the sources are three directories up?</blockquote>

javac -d

If you have been teaching java since -98 and havent figured that out...?]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Fri, 03 Aug 2007 03:50:37 -0400</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Aug 3, 2007</jf:date>
        <jf:author>John Brand</jf:author>
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        <title>Re: Weiqi Gao: The Number One Ill of Java</title>
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            <description><![CDATA[The point about directories having to match file structures being an 'ill' took me by surprise. I think 20-yr programming veterans the author referred to, would have appreciated it right away....]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Fri, 03 Aug 2007 03:23:29 -0400</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Aug 3, 2007</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Niranjan Sathe</jf:author>
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        <title>Ill? I am not sure who is ill here</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=46430</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[Imagine a scenario....]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Fri, 03 Aug 2007 03:12:02 -0400</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Aug 3, 2007</jf:date>
        <jf:author>qwert</jf:author>
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        <title>You sound quite offset ...</title>
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            <description><![CDATA[.. But! your comments are very reasonable. ...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Thu, 02 Aug 2007 23:30:27 -0400</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Aug 2, 2007</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Joubin Houshyar</jf:author>
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        <title>LOL!</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=46430</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[Trash.  'Nuff said.]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Thu, 02 Aug 2007 23:23:57 -0400</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Aug 2, 2007</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Daniel Murley</jf:author>
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        <title>Re: Weiqi Gao: The Number One Ill of Java</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=46430</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[It's more than 10 years I'm using Java and never heard such a complaint about Java. Around 2001 I joined a Microsft shop to help them migrate from asp based development to jsp/servlet world. One thing I heard almost from all those experienced VB/ASP...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Thu, 02 Aug 2007 22:39:12 -0400</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Aug 2, 2007</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Mohammad wrk</jf:author>
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