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        <title>Re: A Few Points</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=46684</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[<blockquote><blockquote>All JEE5 compliant application servers must be EJB 2.1 compliant too.  Which means that most EJB3 implementations encapsulate the same old EJB2.1 under the covers. </blockquote><br><br>Why are there so many EJB3 fans out there...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Thu, 24 Dec 2009 08:37:01 -0500</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Dec 24, 2009</jf:date>
        <jf:author>mlindros</jf:author>
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        <title>Re: A Few Points</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=46684</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[<blockquote>Most professions do not tolerate mediocrity. Would you allow a Surgeon who was 'less than good' to operate on you just because the Hospital had standard tools and procedures in place?<br><br>You would expect the hospital to mentor junior...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Thu, 06 Sep 2007 07:53:35 -0400</pubDate>

        

        <jf:creationDate>Thu, 06 Sep 2007 07:53:35 -0400</jf:creationDate>
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        <jf:date>Sep 6, 2007</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Nomadic</jf:author>
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        <title>Re: PAUL U are the MOST STUPID I EVER SEE IN IT</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=46684</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[<blockquote>Also I was a full time employee of BEA and IBM, so you keep you F***ing software programmer assumption towards me in your ***.</blockquote><br>...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Thu, 06 Sep 2007 07:28:23 -0400</pubDate>

        

        <jf:creationDate>Thu, 06 Sep 2007 07:28:23 -0400</jf:creationDate>
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        <jf:date>Sep 6, 2007</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Nomadic</jf:author>
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        <title>peace</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=46684</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[<blockquote>As I said, from your comments, your language and your general attitude: You will get fired in any decent organization. Your comments here would be sufficient in a lot of countries to "sue your ass off", as they say where I live. <br><br>Let...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Wed, 05 Sep 2007 05:52:57 -0400</pubDate>

        

        <jf:creationDate>Wed, 05 Sep 2007 05:52:57 -0400</jf:creationDate>
        <jf:modificationDate>Wed, 05 Sep 2007 05:52:57 -0400</jf:modificationDate>
        <jf:date>Sep 5, 2007</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Mayur Purandar</jf:author>
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        <title>SOA - Marketing guy think we are idiot</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=46684</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[From more then a year I am hearing the SOA buzz word so much that now I have earache. ...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Fri, 31 Aug 2007 15:37:43 -0400</pubDate>

        

        <jf:creationDate>Fri, 31 Aug 2007 15:37:43 -0400</jf:creationDate>
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        <jf:date>Aug 31, 2007</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Shabbir Hussain</jf:author>
        <jf:replyCount>0</jf:replyCount>
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        <title>Re: I never fired or I beg for a job like people like you</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=46684</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[I hate those decision makers and all those smoke-sellers too,
but I think that a little bromide may help sometime.

Guido]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Fri, 31 Aug 2007 06:17:22 -0400</pubDate>

        

        <jf:creationDate>Fri, 31 Aug 2007 06:17:22 -0400</jf:creationDate>
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        <jf:date>Aug 31, 2007</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Guido Anzuoni</jf:author>
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        <title>Re: I never fired or I beg for a job like people like you</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=46684</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[As I said, from your comments, your language and your general attitude: You will get fired in any decent organization. Your comments here would be sufficient in a lot of countries to "sue your ass off", as they say where I live. ...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Fri, 31 Aug 2007 04:39:49 -0400</pubDate>

        

        <jf:creationDate>Fri, 31 Aug 2007 04:39:49 -0400</jf:creationDate>
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        <jf:date>Aug 31, 2007</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Karl Banke</jf:author>
        <jf:replyCount>1</jf:replyCount>
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        <title>I never fired or I beg for a job like people like you</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=46684</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[I am a person believe in Technology than luck. I have worked with your brother TRUCK driver who went to training in Chicago with his HS diploma and joined in Software Consulting. I choose my profession due to the fact that I know what exactly I am...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Thu, 30 Aug 2007 16:26:43 -0400</pubDate>

        

        <jf:creationDate>Thu, 30 Aug 2007 16:26:43 -0400</jf:creationDate>
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        <jf:date>Aug 30, 2007</jf:date>
        <jf:author>SAPjava74</jf:author>
        <jf:replyCount>3</jf:replyCount>
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        <title>Re: PAUL U are the MOST STUPID I EVER SEE IN IT</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=46684</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[<blockquote>Also I was a full time employee of BEA and IBM, so you keep you F***ing software programmer assumption towards me in your ***.</blockquote>

No doubt you were fired because of your attitude :-).]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Thu, 30 Aug 2007 07:29:49 -0400</pubDate>

        

        <jf:creationDate>Thu, 30 Aug 2007 07:29:49 -0400</jf:creationDate>
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        <jf:date>Aug 30, 2007</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Karl Banke</jf:author>
        <jf:replyCount>5</jf:replyCount>
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        <title>Re: A Few Points</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=46684</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[<blockquote>It was one of Gosling's design goals to limit the features in the Java language so that it could be readily understood by 'mainstream' programmers. Since 1995 he as admitted that perhaps this was a mistake, and we are now faced with trying to...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Thu, 30 Aug 2007 07:14:05 -0400</pubDate>

        

        <jf:creationDate>Thu, 30 Aug 2007 07:14:05 -0400</jf:creationDate>
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        <jf:date>Aug 30, 2007</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Karl Banke</jf:author>
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        <title>Conclusion: Take care ...</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=46684</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[... SOA killed the dinosaurs!]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Tue, 28 Aug 2007 16:14:10 -0400</pubDate>

        

        <jf:creationDate>Tue, 28 Aug 2007 16:14:10 -0400</jf:creationDate>
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        <jf:date>Aug 28, 2007</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Rex Guildo</jf:author>
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        <title>so wrong!!!!!</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=46684</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[This article's axis wrong. the usecase is of someone who need not have used ESB. but it does not say ESB in general is a "wrong architecture".]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Tue, 28 Aug 2007 09:53:08 -0400</pubDate>

        

        <jf:creationDate>Tue, 28 Aug 2007 09:53:08 -0400</jf:creationDate>
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        <jf:date>Aug 28, 2007</jf:date>
        <jf:author>yehuda hofri</jf:author>
        <jf:replyCount>0</jf:replyCount>
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        <title>I don't need a golden hammer...</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=46684</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[<blockquote><blockquote>All JEE5 compliant application servers must be EJB 2.1 compliant too. Which means that most EJB3 implementations encapsulate the same old EJB2.1 under the covers.</blockquote> Why are there so many EJB3 fans out there pretending...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Tue, 28 Aug 2007 09:26:27 -0400</pubDate>

        

        <jf:creationDate>Tue, 28 Aug 2007 09:26:27 -0400</jf:creationDate>
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        <jf:date>Aug 28, 2007</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Rex Guildo</jf:author>
        <jf:replyCount>0</jf:replyCount>
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        <title>Re: A Few Points</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=46684</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[<blockquote>All JEE5 compliant application servers must be EJB 2.1 compliant too.  Which means that most EJB3 implementations encapsulate the same old EJB2.1 under the covers. </blockquote>...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Tue, 28 Aug 2007 09:15:14 -0400</pubDate>

        

        <jf:creationDate>Tue, 28 Aug 2007 09:15:14 -0400</jf:creationDate>
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        <jf:date>Aug 28, 2007</jf:date>
        <jf:author>George Jiang</jf:author>
        <jf:replyCount>2</jf:replyCount>
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        <title>Re: A Few Points</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=46684</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[<blockquote>Now if you had said:

There are so many great and experienced developers are out there. That's what makes the success.

I would agree whole heartedly :^)
</blockquote>Agreed and peace. Must work now...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Tue, 28 Aug 2007 05:08:27 -0400</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Aug 28, 2007</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Rex Guildo</jf:author>
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