Support Forums: Message List - What would make you change languages? http://www.theserverside.com Most recent forum messages en Jive Forums Silver 5.5.30 (www.jivesoftware.com) Sat, 18 May 2013 05:42:27 -0400 Re: What would make you change languages? http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=48144 Tue, 22 Jan 2008 06:25:51 -0500 Tue, 22 Jan 2008 06:25:51 -0500 Tue, 22 Jan 2008 06:25:51 -0500 Jan 22, 2008 Eelco Hillenius 0 Re: Groovy is Ruby done wrong http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=48144 As a trivial example that should be well known to any language designer, they messed up the information hiding around methods/fields by making it necessary to add () to a method call. This makes refactoring between these change the code *for...]]> Tue, 22 Jan 2008 04:13:11 -0500 Tue, 22 Jan 2008 04:13:11 -0500 Tue, 22 Jan 2008 04:13:11 -0500 Jan 22, 2008 Rick Hightower 0 Groovy is Ruby done wrong http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=48144 Tue, 22 Jan 2008 02:51:44 -0500 Tue, 22 Jan 2008 02:51:44 -0500 Tue, 22 Jan 2008 02:51:44 -0500 Jan 22, 2008 Eivind Eklund 1 Re: What would make you change languages? http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=48144 What would make you change languages? $$$ demand $$$]]> Mon, 21 Jan 2008 11:55:34 -0500 Mon, 21 Jan 2008 11:55:34 -0500 Mon, 21 Jan 2008 11:55:34 -0500 Jan 21, 2008 Race Condition 0 Re: What would make you change languages? http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=48144 Mon, 21 Jan 2008 04:25:38 -0500 Mon, 21 Jan 2008 04:25:38 -0500 Mon, 21 Jan 2008 04:25:38 -0500 Jan 21, 2008 michele michele 0 Re: Smalltalk -->Ruby http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=48144
It's more than just the beauty of the language though. Smalltalk has had all this stuff for over 20 years now but Smalltalk went nowhere while the late-to-the-party but practical Java kicked its butt

Yes, right....]]> Mon, 21 Jan 2008 04:15:33 -0500 Mon, 21 Jan 2008 04:15:33 -0500 Mon, 21 Jan 2008 04:15:33 -0500 Jan 21, 2008 Werner Punz 0 Job opportunities, actually http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=48144 Mon, 21 Jan 2008 04:06:03 -0500 Mon, 21 Jan 2008 04:06:03 -0500 Mon, 21 Jan 2008 04:06:03 -0500 Jan 21, 2008 Manivanna Doraisamy 0 Tier or Layer, not only in applications here!!! http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=48144 Mon, 21 Jan 2008 00:57:43 -0500 Mon, 21 Jan 2008 00:57:43 -0500 Mon, 21 Jan 2008 00:57:43 -0500 Jan 21, 2008 Qinxian Xiang 0 Re: C style syntax http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=48144 Sun, 20 Jan 2008 15:30:49 -0500 Sun, 20 Jan 2008 15:30:49 -0500 Sun, 20 Jan 2008 15:30:49 -0500 Jan 20, 2008 Ingo Boegemann 0 Re: C style syntax http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=48144 The syntax that got "ingrained" in me first was Basic followed by Assembler. I guess we should have stayed there.
Let's look at how easy and direct I can express the logic of my application in code and not at whether its looks the same as...]]> Sun, 20 Jan 2008 14:33:12 -0500 Sun, 20 Jan 2008 14:33:12 -0500 Sun, 20 Jan 2008 14:33:12 -0500 Jan 20, 2008 Rick Hightower 1 C style syntax http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=48144 Sat, 19 Jan 2008 14:48:38 -0500 Sat, 19 Jan 2008 14:48:38 -0500 Sat, 19 Jan 2008 14:48:38 -0500 Jan 19, 2008 Ingo Boegemann 2 Re: What would make you change languages? http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=48144 A discussion with a, um, let's call him "rank and file" programmer ...]]> Sat, 19 Jan 2008 02:14:32 -0500 Sat, 19 Jan 2008 02:14:32 -0500 Sat, 19 Jan 2008 02:14:32 -0500 Jan 19, 2008 Rick Hightower 2 Re: Features make me change, syntax makes me stay http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=48144 Sat, 19 Jan 2008 01:34:24 -0500 Sat, 19 Jan 2008 01:34:24 -0500 Sat, 19 Jan 2008 01:34:24 -0500 Jan 19, 2008 Rick Hightower 0 Re: What would make you change languages? http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=48144 I would've happily spent the rest of my days writing Scheme but no one would pay me to do it. It turned out that people would pay me to write OO code in C++ which was much more fun than faking it in C. Of course it's even more fun in Java and...]]> Sat, 19 Jan 2008 01:26:15 -0500 Sat, 19 Jan 2008 01:26:15 -0500 Sat, 19 Jan 2008 01:26:15 -0500 Jan 19, 2008 Rick Hightower 0 Re: Features make me change, syntax makes me stay http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=48144 ...]]> Sat, 19 Jan 2008 01:21:20 -0500 Sat, 19 Jan 2008 01:21:20 -0500 Sat, 19 Jan 2008 01:21:20 -0500 Jan 19, 2008 Rick Hightower 0