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        <title>Re: Because Spring is better for me</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=48268</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[Right, why use one platform (with a proper specification), when you can use a tie-it-all-together configuration-service-gone-wild AND a hundred different libraries that - put together - do more or less exactly what JEE does. The fight against entropy is...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Mon, 04 Feb 2008 10:34:17 -0500</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Feb 4, 2008</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Karl Banke</jf:author>
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        <title>Greenfield projects only</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=48268</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[I think that it is only viable to use JEE5 in Greenfield projects. If you don't use it there (when going the JEE/J2EE way) you deserve to be fired. For all other projects the decision is not that easy. ...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Mon, 04 Feb 2008 07:16:13 -0500</pubDate>

        

        <jf:creationDate>Mon, 04 Feb 2008 07:16:13 -0500</jf:creationDate>
        <jf:modificationDate>Mon, 04 Feb 2008 07:16:13 -0500</jf:modificationDate>
        <jf:date>Feb 4, 2008</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Karl Banke</jf:author>
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        <title>Re: Javalobby: Why are we not using Java EE 5?</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=48268</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[It depends whom you are asking.  The author might have spoken to some IBM customers....]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Mon, 04 Feb 2008 00:43:50 -0500</pubDate>

        

        <jf:creationDate>Mon, 04 Feb 2008 00:43:50 -0500</jf:creationDate>
        <jf:modificationDate>Mon, 04 Feb 2008 00:43:50 -0500</jf:modificationDate>
        <jf:date>Feb 4, 2008</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Debu Panda</jf:author>
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        <title>Re: Javalobby: Why are we not using Java EE 5?</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=48268</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[I disagree from the author of the article, don't know the depth of his market knowledge......]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Sat, 02 Feb 2008 11:08:47 -0500</pubDate>

        

        <jf:creationDate>Sat, 02 Feb 2008 11:08:47 -0500</jf:creationDate>
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        <jf:date>Feb 2, 2008</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Dino M.</jf:author>
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        <title>It's the vendors! and the choices we make!</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=48268</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[If IBM, JBoss, Oracle, BEA had them out earlier we would have bough them.  This is one of the reasons why Glassfish (Sub App Server is serging now)  To be fair, these companies have built many systems ontop of J2EE 1.4 and would mean a big change for...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Fri, 01 Feb 2008 17:54:40 -0500</pubDate>

        

        <jf:creationDate>Fri, 01 Feb 2008 17:54:40 -0500</jf:creationDate>
        <jf:modificationDate>Fri, 01 Feb 2008 17:54:40 -0500</jf:modificationDate>
        <jf:date>Feb 1, 2008</jf:date>
        <jf:author>MrBigMAN</jf:author>
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        <title>Re: Because Spring is better for me</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=48268</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[<blockquote><blockquote>Care to elaborate on what exactly Spring 2.5 has not "caught up to"?</blockquote>...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Fri, 01 Feb 2008 13:00:22 -0500</pubDate>

        

        <jf:creationDate>Fri, 01 Feb 2008 13:00:22 -0500</jf:creationDate>
        <jf:modificationDate>Fri, 01 Feb 2008 13:00:22 -0500</jf:modificationDate>
        <jf:date>Feb 1, 2008</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Rod Johnson</jf:author>
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        <title>Re: No JEE5 server are realy sold</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=48268</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[<blockquote><blockquote><br>WebSphere App Server 6.1 is J2SE 1.5 compatible and J2EE 1.4 compatible.  However, there are a number of free downloadable feature packs for WAS 6.1 that provide support for significant subsets of Java EE 5 function: the...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Fri, 01 Feb 2008 12:18:22 -0500</pubDate>

        

        <jf:creationDate>Fri, 01 Feb 2008 12:18:22 -0500</jf:creationDate>
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        <jf:date>Feb 1, 2008</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Randy  Schnier</jf:author>
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        <title>Re: Because Spring is better for me</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=48268</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[<blockquote>There are genuine innovations in Java EE 5 that Spring has not yet completely caught up to. And these aren't just tangential features that are bells and whistles, but fundamental usage pattern improvements.</blockquote>...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Fri, 01 Feb 2008 10:30:53 -0500</pubDate>

        

        <jf:creationDate>Fri, 01 Feb 2008 10:30:53 -0500</jf:creationDate>
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        <jf:date>Feb 1, 2008</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Les Hazlewood</jf:author>
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        <title>Re: Because Spring is better for me</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=48268</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[<blockquote>Oh yes, and the Spring guys will never use JEE5 because it is simply WAY too conformist.<br><br>Long live JEE 5!</blockquote>...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Fri, 01 Feb 2008 08:15:38 -0500</pubDate>

        

        <jf:creationDate>Fri, 01 Feb 2008 08:15:38 -0500</jf:creationDate>
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        <jf:date>Feb 1, 2008</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Juergen Hoeller</jf:author>
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        <title>Re: Because Spring is better for me</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=48268</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[People are not using JEE 5 because the god-architects in corporates that usually make these decisions realize that they would have nowhere to hide their incompetence. You see, for years the world of J2EE has been a refuge for pompous know-it-alls to hide...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Fri, 01 Feb 2008 05:23:01 -0500</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Feb 1, 2008</jf:date>
        <jf:author>A B</jf:author>
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        <title>Re: Because Spring is better for me</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=48268</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[<blockquote>Care to elaborate on what exactly Spring 2.5 has not "caught up to"?</blockquote>...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Thu, 31 Jan 2008 19:53:21 -0500</pubDate>

        

        <jf:creationDate>Thu, 31 Jan 2008 19:53:21 -0500</jf:creationDate>
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        <jf:date>Jan 31, 2008</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Reza Rahman</jf:author>
        <jf:replyCount>1</jf:replyCount>
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        <title>Re: Because Spring is better for me</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=48268</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[<blockquote>There are genuine innovations in Java EE 5 that Spring has not yet completely caught up to. And these aren't just tangential features that are bells and whistles, but fundamental usage pattern improvements.</blockquote>...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Thu, 31 Jan 2008 15:52:55 -0500</pubDate>

        

        <jf:creationDate>Thu, 31 Jan 2008 15:52:55 -0500</jf:creationDate>
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        <jf:date>Jan 31, 2008</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Juergen Hoeller</jf:author>
        <jf:replyCount>2</jf:replyCount>
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        <title>Re: No JEE5 server are realy sold</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=48268</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[<blockquote><br>WebSphere App Server 6.1 is J2SE 1.5 compatible and J2EE 1.4 compatible.  However, there are a number of free downloadable feature packs for WAS 6.1 that provide support for significant subsets of Java EE 5 function: the webservices...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Thu, 31 Jan 2008 12:09:54 -0500</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Jan 31, 2008</jf:date>
        <jf:author>feniix</jf:author>
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        <title>Re: No JEE5 server are realy sold</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=48268</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[<blockquote>To my knowledge, Websphere 6.1 is JEE 5 compatible. Perhaps you say that because WSAD is not compatible with Java 5 ?</blockquote>...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Thu, 31 Jan 2008 10:21:58 -0500</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Jan 31, 2008</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Randy  Schnier</jf:author>
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        <title>Re: Why I can't use JEE 5</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=48268</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[<blockquote>I currently can't use JEE 5 because we are a Websphere shop.  We are stuck at 1.4. :-(</blockquote>...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Thu, 31 Jan 2008 10:16:37 -0500</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Jan 31, 2008</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Randy  Schnier</jf:author>
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