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    <pubDate>Tue, 21 May 2013 08:33:51 -0400</pubDate>


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        <title>Re: JMS and AMQP</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=49013</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[Yes,  JMS isn't a protocol and AMQP is, per se.  But if you had heard the presentation that fomented the question you would have heard a direct contrasting of JMS and AMQP in the real world.  For the most part, it would not be useful to implement the JMS...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Tue, 06 May 2008 15:59:46 -0400</pubDate>

        

        <jf:creationDate>Tue, 06 May 2008 15:59:46 -0400</jf:creationDate>
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        <jf:date>May 6, 2008</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Steve Hodge</jf:author>
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        <title>AMQP - messaging for everyone, not just Java...</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=49013</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[I agree with Neil in that AMQP does work and has technically achieved most of what it set out to... and the rest is within grasp....]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Wed, 23 Apr 2008 21:18:11 -0400</pubDate>

        

        <jf:creationDate>Wed, 23 Apr 2008 21:18:11 -0400</jf:creationDate>
        <jf:modificationDate>Wed, 23 Apr 2008 21:18:11 -0400</jf:modificationDate>
        <jf:date>Apr 23, 2008</jf:date>
        <jf:author>John O'Hara</jf:author>
        <jf:replyCount>0</jf:replyCount>
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        <title>Re: Using OpenESB</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=49013</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[<blockquote>Awkwardly enough for some reason after reading this article+comments I feel ashamed of using OpenESB. Yes you read that right. We might actually be the only ones on Earth using OpenESB. Ironically my group is using it in JBoss and another...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Wed, 16 Apr 2008 01:30:05 -0400</pubDate>

        

        <jf:creationDate>Wed, 16 Apr 2008 01:30:05 -0400</jf:creationDate>
        <jf:modificationDate>Wed, 16 Apr 2008 01:30:05 -0400</jf:modificationDate>
        <jf:date>Apr 16, 2008</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Roland Altenhoven</jf:author>
        <jf:replyCount>0</jf:replyCount>
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        <title>Using OpenESB</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=49013</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[Awkwardly enough for some reason after reading this article+comments I feel ashamed of using OpenESB. Yes you read that right. We might actually be the only ones on Earth using OpenESB. Ironically my group is using it in JBoss and another group is using...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Wed, 16 Apr 2008 00:05:21 -0400</pubDate>

        

        <jf:creationDate>Wed, 16 Apr 2008 00:05:21 -0400</jf:creationDate>
        <jf:modificationDate>Wed, 16 Apr 2008 00:05:21 -0400</jf:modificationDate>
        <jf:date>Apr 16, 2008</jf:date>
        <jf:author>James Lorenzen</jf:author>
        <jf:replyCount>1</jf:replyCount>
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        <title>Re: re: rewrites</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=49013</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[<blockquote>Your sole and vaunted reason for not joining the JCP, for not supporting the JBI spec., and for de-riding openESB is the re-write issue, which i, as a non-spec. lead/non-implementer will take u at your word</blockquote>...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Mon, 14 Apr 2008 02:53:29 -0400</pubDate>

        

        <jf:creationDate>Mon, 14 Apr 2008 02:53:29 -0400</jf:creationDate>
        <jf:modificationDate>Mon, 14 Apr 2008 02:53:29 -0400</jf:modificationDate>
        <jf:date>Apr 14, 2008</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Ross Mason</jf:author>
        <jf:replyCount>0</jf:replyCount>
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        <title>Re: Learning More About ESBs and SOA Development at Mulecon</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=49013</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[Frank, very nice summary....]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Sat, 12 Apr 2008 14:14:57 -0400</pubDate>

        

        <jf:creationDate>Sat, 12 Apr 2008 14:14:57 -0400</jf:creationDate>
        <jf:modificationDate>Sat, 12 Apr 2008 14:14:57 -0400</jf:modificationDate>
        <jf:date>Apr 12, 2008</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Guy Nirpaz</jf:author>
        <jf:replyCount>0</jf:replyCount>
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        <title>re: rewrites</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=49013</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[I re-read my post, and admit that i may have come across as frustrated, apologies, if that is what u need...i would assume that openESB is currently second-tier in the integration offerings from Sun following SeeBeyond, but unless I am missing something,...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Sat, 12 Apr 2008 10:21:13 -0400</pubDate>

        

        <jf:creationDate>Sat, 12 Apr 2008 10:21:13 -0400</jf:creationDate>
        <jf:modificationDate>Sat, 12 Apr 2008 10:21:13 -0400</jf:modificationDate>
        <jf:date>Apr 12, 2008</jf:date>
        <jf:author>douglas dooley</jf:author>
        <jf:replyCount>1</jf:replyCount>
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        <title>Re: Learning More About ESBs and SOA Development at Mulecon</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=49013</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[Very nice and interesting article - many thanks for this detailled informations.

Roland

<a href="http://www.soa-competence.com" target="_blank">SOA Competence Network</a>]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Sat, 12 Apr 2008 05:08:31 -0400</pubDate>

        

        <jf:creationDate>Sat, 12 Apr 2008 05:08:31 -0400</jf:creationDate>
        <jf:modificationDate>Sat, 12 Apr 2008 05:08:31 -0400</jf:modificationDate>
        <jf:date>Apr 12, 2008</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Roland Altenhoven</jf:author>
        <jf:replyCount>0</jf:replyCount>
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        <title>Re: re: tired</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=49013</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[Douglas, You're sounding bitter and a little desperate.  We honestly never see OpenESB in engagements, I don't know what else to say, except there is nothing to run from.  Do you have some visibility into customers that use OpenESB? Who do they get...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Sat, 12 Apr 2008 00:58:58 -0400</pubDate>

        

        <jf:creationDate>Sat, 12 Apr 2008 00:58:58 -0400</jf:creationDate>
        <jf:modificationDate>Sat, 12 Apr 2008 00:58:58 -0400</jf:modificationDate>
        <jf:date>Apr 12, 2008</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Ross Mason</jf:author>
        <jf:replyCount>2</jf:replyCount>
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        <title>Re: comprehensively disagree</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=49013</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[Hmmm... it's seems I posted a broken link about my previous comments on JBI: <a class="jive-link-external" href="http://www.theserverside.com/news/thread.tss?thread_id=46764#239389"...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Sat, 12 Apr 2008 00:21:05 -0400</pubDate>

        

        <jf:creationDate>Sat, 12 Apr 2008 00:21:05 -0400</jf:creationDate>
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        <jf:date>Apr 12, 2008</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Ross Mason</jf:author>
        <jf:replyCount>0</jf:replyCount>
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        <title>re: tired</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=49013</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[Unfortunately, your view, Ross, is that a standard is an old-bone that you have to deal with, and I acknowledge the possibility that the world addresses the standards-issue with SCA, but I honestly have no idea what your p.o.v. is on not supporting...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Sat, 12 Apr 2008 00:01:51 -0400</pubDate>

        

        <jf:creationDate>Sat, 12 Apr 2008 00:01:51 -0400</jf:creationDate>
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        <jf:date>Apr 12, 2008</jf:date>
        <jf:author>douglas dooley</jf:author>
        <jf:replyCount>3</jf:replyCount>
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        <title>Re: comprehensively disagree</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=49013</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[Hi Douglas,...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Fri, 11 Apr 2008 23:14:10 -0400</pubDate>

        

        <jf:creationDate>Fri, 11 Apr 2008 23:14:10 -0400</jf:creationDate>
        <jf:modificationDate>Fri, 11 Apr 2008 23:14:10 -0400</jf:modificationDate>
        <jf:date>Apr 11, 2008</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Ross Mason</jf:author>
        <jf:replyCount>5</jf:replyCount>
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        <title>Re: Learning More About ESBs and SOA Development at Mulecon</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=49013</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[Hi Frank,...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Fri, 11 Apr 2008 20:29:55 -0400</pubDate>

        

        <jf:creationDate>Fri, 11 Apr 2008 20:29:55 -0400</jf:creationDate>
        <jf:modificationDate>Fri, 11 Apr 2008 20:29:55 -0400</jf:modificationDate>
        <jf:date>Apr 11, 2008</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Ross Mason</jf:author>
        <jf:replyCount>0</jf:replyCount>
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        <title>JMS and AMQP</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=49013</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[The JMS vs AMQP question is a bit of a false dichotomy. JMS isn't a protocol, it's an API. This makes it a bit odd to consider it when choosing a "universal protocol." This also means you don't need to choose between AMQP and JMS, you can have both! Java...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Fri, 11 Apr 2008 16:32:30 -0400</pubDate>

        

        <jf:creationDate>Fri, 11 Apr 2008 16:32:30 -0400</jf:creationDate>
        <jf:modificationDate>Fri, 11 Apr 2008 16:32:30 -0400</jf:modificationDate>
        <jf:date>Apr 11, 2008</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Rafael Schloming</jf:author>
        <jf:replyCount>1</jf:replyCount>
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        <title>AMQP comments</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=49013</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[<blockquote>"AMQP tries to do something very important but may not be attainable."</blockquote>...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Fri, 11 Apr 2008 16:07:16 -0400</pubDate>

        

        <jf:creationDate>Fri, 11 Apr 2008 16:07:16 -0400</jf:creationDate>
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        <jf:date>Apr 11, 2008</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Neil Bartlett</jf:author>
        <jf:replyCount>1</jf:replyCount>
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