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        <title>flex looks promising let see</title>
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            <description><![CDATA[yeah it is true that flex wind hands down in that case. I am only worried that performance and footprint of flex framework should improve further in next release. I mean file size of output file and framework itself. Also Flexbuilder should improve it...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Mon, 18 Aug 2008 02:49:56 -0400</pubDate>

        

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        <title>Re: The exact reasons for JavaFX over Flex...</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=50195</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[Yes, I'm a fan, but I think my fascination comes more from the fact that it replaces the current ajax/dhtml technologies very well.  Besides the market penetration of flash to over 99% of browsers, which eliminates the complaints of supporting something...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Thu, 07 Aug 2008 15:06:57 -0400</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Aug 7, 2008</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Ilya Sterin</jf:author>
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        <title>Re: Great, i'll be sure to check it out --- In 2015</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=50195</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[It would be interesting to hear people's experiences with Flex and complicated groups/grids with large datasets. I think in this area alone, the ecosystem hasn't caught up to the capabilities of an infragistics, componentone, xceed, etc. for...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Thu, 07 Aug 2008 12:30:37 -0400</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Aug 7, 2008</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Jin Chun</jf:author>
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        <title>Re: Great, i'll be sure to check it out --- In 2015</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=50195</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[<blockquote>Henri, im sorry that you have a limited vision about the future and market...<br><br>check this link <a href="http://www.tiobe.com/index.php/content/paperinfo/tpci/index.html"...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Thu, 07 Aug 2008 10:05:31 -0400</pubDate>

        

        <jf:creationDate>Thu, 07 Aug 2008 10:05:31 -0400</jf:creationDate>
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        <jf:date>Aug 7, 2008</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Henri Karapuu</jf:author>
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        <title>Re: The exact reasons for JavaFX over Flex...</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=50195</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[<blockquote>Henri,<br><br>I think you are missing the point - I have never developed "desktop applications". I used to develop "client/server  applications".</blockquote>...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Thu, 07 Aug 2008 09:54:17 -0400</pubDate>

        

        <jf:creationDate>Thu, 07 Aug 2008 09:54:17 -0400</jf:creationDate>
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        <jf:date>Aug 7, 2008</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Henri Karapuu</jf:author>
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        <title>Re: The exact reasons for JavaFX over Flex...</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=50195</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[Hi Ilya,...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Thu, 07 Aug 2008 08:16:58 -0400</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Aug 7, 2008</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Lawrie Cornell</jf:author>
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        <title>Re: The exact reasons for JavaFX over Flex...</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=50195</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[Please explain what is it that you can't do with Flex that you can do with any other (non-Desktop) application environment?...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Wed, 06 Aug 2008 20:08:13 -0400</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Aug 6, 2008</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Ilya Sterin</jf:author>
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        <title>Re: The exact reasons for JavaFX over Flex...</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=50195</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[Henri,...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Wed, 06 Aug 2008 05:29:41 -0400</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Aug 6, 2008</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Lawrie Cornell</jf:author>
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        <title>Re: Great, i'll be sure to check it out --- In 2015</title>
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            <description><![CDATA[What does that link prove?  Java's popularity?  I don't think anyone's denying it, nor is anyone saying that Flex/AS3 will replace java.  Flex/AS3 is a great solution for client side RIA and it doesn't and should try to play in the server side space....]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Tue, 05 Aug 2008 16:27:24 -0400</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Aug 5, 2008</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Ilya Sterin</jf:author>
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        <title>Re: Great, i'll be sure to check it out --- In 2015</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=50195</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[Henri, im sorry that you have a limited vision about the future and market......]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Tue, 05 Aug 2008 14:58:45 -0400</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Aug 5, 2008</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Cristobal Morales</jf:author>
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        <title>Re: Cost</title>
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            <description><![CDATA[It's a little different. From what I've experience, as soon as you drop code inside the firewall and within the enterprise, it won't run without a support license, especially in bigger companies. This doesn't include things that are delivered to the...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Tue, 05 Aug 2008 09:49:52 -0400</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Aug 5, 2008</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Jin Chun</jf:author>
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        <title>Re: Cost</title>
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            <description><![CDATA[Ok, now I'm lost.  First you complain about paying $$$, then you complain about not having support/product bundling.  Hmmm, and you get that with free open source JavaFX?  You either use open source free software or commercial software.  To say that...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Tue, 05 Aug 2008 01:39:12 -0400</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Aug 5, 2008</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Ilya Sterin</jf:author>
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        <title>Re: Cost</title>
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            <description><![CDATA[I meant Adobe LCDS. Yes, I know there is BlazeDS, but not all corporations will accept it (after all, if you are bundling it with your product, you want some sort of a support contract to go with it). The last I heard, Adobe LCDS was $10k per CPU....]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Tue, 05 Aug 2008 00:36:21 -0400</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Aug 5, 2008</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Srinivas Veeravalli</jf:author>
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        <title>Re: Great, i'll be sure to check it out --- In 2015</title>
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            <description><![CDATA[<blockquote>Henri, I think you are missing something - JavaFX would be at the "webstart" and RIA layers. I think JavaFX is Sun's answer to you saying that VS and XCode are much better.</blockquote>...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Mon, 04 Aug 2008 17:54:25 -0400</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Aug 4, 2008</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Henri Karapuu</jf:author>
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        <title>Re: Great, i'll be sure to check it out --- In 2015</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=50195</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[Henri, I think you are missing something - JavaFX would be at the "webstart" and RIA layers. I think JavaFX is Sun's answer to you saying that VS and XCode are much better.]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Mon, 04 Aug 2008 17:23:27 -0400</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Aug 4, 2008</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Joseph Ottinger</jf:author>
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