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        <title>Good comments but problem with dates</title>
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            <description><![CDATA[<blockquote>...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Wed, 24 Sep 2008 16:38:53 -0400</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Sep 24, 2008</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Lee Meador</jf:author>
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        <title>permgen and heap</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=50665</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[at least make the sun jvm permgen issue disappear by default...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Thu, 18 Sep 2008 18:59:21 -0400</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Sep 18, 2008</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Ray Tsang</jf:author>
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        <title>Re: Java's Biggest Long-Term Problem</title>
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            <description><![CDATA[Like you said, If a system be developed and deployed for a enterprise, i think that you cannot just concern Java from the simpler and more inexpensive angle. the reason is that the first requiement for the system is about how secure and stable, which are...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Thu, 18 Sep 2008 15:21:53 -0400</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Sep 18, 2008</jf:date>
        <jf:author>steven sun</jf:author>
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        <title>Re: Java's Biggest Long-Term Problem</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=50665</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[<blockquote> Particularly that the developer hosting environment would make key decisions regarding frameworks so that entrepreneurs could confidently embark on projects that would meet their Web 2.0 feature needs along with their needs for scalability...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Thu, 18 Sep 2008 03:50:13 -0400</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Sep 18, 2008</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Chief Thrall</jf:author>
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        <title>Java's Biggest Long-Term Problem is...</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=50665</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[Like with any other technology designed for people, Java's biggest long-term problem is ... people. The attention span of the crowds is short, crowds want more, newer, shiny or at least different. ...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Thu, 18 Sep 2008 03:10:43 -0400</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Sep 18, 2008</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Eduard Letifov</jf:author>
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        <title>Re: Java's Biggest Long-Term Problem</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=50665</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[Hello, it's original poster guy......]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Wed, 17 Sep 2008 14:53:46 -0400</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Sep 17, 2008</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Robert Miller</jf:author>
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        <title>Re: Java's Biggest Long-Term Problem</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=50665</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[Virgin poster, so be gentle....]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Wed, 17 Sep 2008 09:44:09 -0400</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Sep 17, 2008</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Ken Taylor</jf:author>
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        <title>Re: Java's Biggest Long-Term Problem</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=50665</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[There is a long history of people believing that simplified interpreted/scripting languages and app dev frameworks will supplant mainstream curly bracket languages. They pop every decade or so. Remember 4GLs in the 80's? Despite the complexity of C/C++...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Wed, 17 Sep 2008 08:50:48 -0400</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Sep 17, 2008</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Gregory Power</jf:author>
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        <title>Re: Closures and other language features</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=50665</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[<blockquote>there is a lot more that factors into a corporate technology strategy than simply the cost of the developers</blockquote>...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Tue, 16 Sep 2008 15:40:34 -0400</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Sep 16, 2008</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Chief Thrall</jf:author>
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        <title>Do not Compare</title>
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            <description><![CDATA[Well,...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Tue, 16 Sep 2008 15:40:23 -0400</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Sep 16, 2008</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Sapan Parikh</jf:author>
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        <title>Re: Closures and other language features</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=50665</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[<blockquote>Wanna evidence? If people could make more money (or cut development spendings) with Groovy they would use it.</blockquote>...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Tue, 16 Sep 2008 14:41:48 -0400</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Sep 16, 2008</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Peter Mularien</jf:author>
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        <title>Re: Closures and other language features</title>
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            <description><![CDATA[Title of this thread is misleading. Author is probably aiming only at web development.

It should read:
"Java's Long Term problem in generating HTML markup".]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Tue, 16 Sep 2008 14:19:48 -0400</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Sep 16, 2008</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Chief Thrall</jf:author>
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        <title>Re: Closures and other language features</title>
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            <description><![CDATA[<blockquote>Your templating example is cute, but kind of misses the point (IMO). Templating and smart usage of macros for common code definitely has a place in any language. </blockquote>...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Tue, 16 Sep 2008 14:14:21 -0400</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Sep 16, 2008</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Chief Thrall</jf:author>
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        <title>Re: Closures and other language features</title>
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            <description><![CDATA[<blockquote><blockquote>...</blockquote><br><br>Actually I have tried and worked with Groovy, however when comparing benefits and drawbacks pure Java wins hands down.<br><br>If I got this right, you (people in general, not you personally), complain about...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Tue, 16 Sep 2008 13:32:28 -0400</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Sep 16, 2008</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Eric Weise</jf:author>
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        <title>Re: Closures and other language features</title>
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            <description><![CDATA[Darn the lack of an edit button!]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Tue, 16 Sep 2008 13:29:43 -0400</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Sep 16, 2008</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Peter Mularien</jf:author>
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