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        <title>completely biased</title>
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            <description><![CDATA[smells distinctly like zpam]]></description>
        

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        <title>IT Mill Toolkit book</title>
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            <description><![CDATA[@Otengi Miloskov (and others)...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Wed, 29 Oct 2008 04:03:02 -0400</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:author>Marc Englund</jf:author>
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        <title>Re: Well, I miss IT Mill Toolkit in your matrix</title>
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            <description><![CDATA[@Otengi Miloskov: "A Book could be good for starters"...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Wed, 29 Oct 2008 03:57:59 -0400</pubDate>

        

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        <title>Re: Partitioning decisions in building a distributed application</title>
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            <description><![CDATA[<blockquote>I agree with what you say. My point wasn't about distribution - actually, I am all for Martin Fowler's "First Law of Distributed Object Design": Don't distribute. 8^)<br><br>My point is that the web browser can now be seen as the new...]]></description>
        

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            <description><![CDATA[If any user in the world would be "honest" we could return to the "fat client" approach and SQL queries could live in the client too. ...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Tue, 21 Oct 2008 15:40:42 -0400</pubDate>

        

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        <title>Re: Partitioning decisions in building a distributed application</title>
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            <description><![CDATA[<blockquote>...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Tue, 21 Oct 2008 08:24:20 -0400</pubDate>

        

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        <title>Re: Article: Direct Ajax - Goodbye to Ajax Deadly Sins</title>
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            <description><![CDATA[<blockquote>I agree with Werner, the sad true is MSIE 6.0 <a href="http://marketshare.hitslink.com/report.aspx?qprid=2">holds 25%</a> of the browser market. Furthermore, the DOM engine of v7 is basically the same as v6, same quirks, same...]]></description>
        

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        <title>Partitioning decisions in building a distributed application</title>
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            <description><![CDATA[<blockquote>These days, it just doesn't make sense to have the UI logic of a business web application execute on the server.<br><br>Consider that client machines have been quite capable for years; consider all the technical advances and innovations...]]></description>
        

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        <title>Re: Article: Direct Ajax - Goodbye to Ajax Deadly Sins</title>
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            <description><![CDATA[I agree with Werner, the sad true is MSIE 6.0 <a href="http://marketshare.hitslink.com/report.aspx?qprid=2">holds 25%</a> of the browser market. Furthermore, the DOM engine of v7 is basically the same as v6, same quirks, same bugs.]]></description>
        

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            <description><![CDATA[<blockquote>These days, it just doesn't make sense to have the UI logic of a business web application execute on the server.<br><br>Consider that client machines have been quite capable for years; consider all the technical advances and innovations...]]></description>
        

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        <title>Client-centric x server-centric programming model</title>
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            <description><![CDATA[<blockquote>A server-centric approach usually implies the browser is used for the task it was conceived: to visually render web pages and receive user input.</blockquote>...]]></description>
        

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        <title>Re: Well, I miss IT Mill Toolkit in your matrix</title>
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            <description><![CDATA[<blockquote>To me, the more primitive programming model is the one that treats the client side as a dumb terminal.</blockquote>...]]></description>
        

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        <title>Re: JavaScript is not assembly [especially not in IE :) ]</title>
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            <description><![CDATA[<blockquote>but an abstraction layer does not imply that one language is higher than the other</blockquote>I said "higher level" not higher.  I am not degrading JavaScript....]]></description>
        

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            <description><![CDATA[<blockquote>Not that Wikipedia is always right ... <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High-level_programming_language" target="_blank">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High-level_programming_language</a></blockquote>...]]></description>
        

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            <description><![CDATA[<blockquote>GWT provides a way to control UI objects in pure Java. This is its major advantage, but its programming is still primitive to me since I have to update not only the server code but also the client code if the spec is changed? The problem of...]]></description>
        

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