Support Forums: Message List - Why OSGi is cool, but not for most enterprise apps… http://www.theserverside.com Most recent forum messages en Jive Forums Silver 5.5.30 (www.jivesoftware.com) Sat, 25 May 2013 21:54:43 -0400 Re: Why OSGi is cool, but not for most enterprise apps… http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=55359 Wed, 02 Sep 2009 06:17:29 -0400 Wed, 02 Sep 2009 06:17:29 -0400 Wed, 02 Sep 2009 06:17:29 -0400 Sep 2, 2009 Ian Robinson 0 Re: Import-Package ... http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=55359 James,

But then I ask why even have Private-Package?


Private-Package isn't part of the OSGi standard. I think this is a header that BND provides since it exports all packages by default.

Hope this...]]> Fri, 07 Aug 2009 11:45:07 -0400 Fri, 07 Aug 2009 11:45:07 -0400 Fri, 07 Aug 2009 11:45:07 -0400 Aug 7, 2009 James Watson 0 Re: Import-Package ... http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=55359 But then I ask why even have Private-Package? Private-Package isn't part of the OSGi standard. I think this is a header that BND provides since it exports all packages by default. Hope this helps, Rob]]> Fri, 07 Aug 2009 10:35:03 -0400 Fri, 07 Aug 2009 10:35:03 -0400 Fri, 07 Aug 2009 10:35:03 -0400 Aug 7, 2009 Rob Harrop 1 Re: Import-Package ... http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=55359 In regards import-package, for me the case in question is where you have a bundle where say 5% is public API (that other code depends on) and the other 95% is internal implementation. You want to explicitly hide the internal packages from...]]> Fri, 07 Aug 2009 09:23:32 -0400 Fri, 07 Aug 2009 09:23:32 -0400 Fri, 07 Aug 2009 09:23:32 -0400 Aug 7, 2009 James Watson 2 Import-Package ... http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=55359 Fri, 07 Aug 2009 01:28:39 -0400 Fri, 07 Aug 2009 01:28:39 -0400 Fri, 07 Aug 2009 01:28:39 -0400 Aug 7, 2009 rob bygrave 3 Re: Why OSGi is cool, but not for most enterprise apps… http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=55359 Absolutely. Are we sure that all these dependency management schemes aren't just workarounds for early XML library problems? ;-)...]]> Thu, 06 Aug 2009 16:54:12 -0400 Thu, 06 Aug 2009 16:54:12 -0400 Thu, 06 Aug 2009 16:54:12 -0400 Aug 6, 2009 James Watson 4 Re: Why OSGi is cool, but not for most enterprise apps… http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=55359 ...]]> Thu, 06 Aug 2009 15:39:05 -0400 Thu, 06 Aug 2009 15:39:05 -0400 Thu, 06 Aug 2009 15:39:05 -0400 Aug 6, 2009 Emil Ong 5 Re: Why OSGi is cool, but not for most enterprise apps… http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=55359 [...] We've been getting a lot of positive feedback from developers who didn't need the complexity when all they wanted is jar-level dependencies.[...]...]]> Thu, 06 Aug 2009 13:57:55 -0400 Thu, 06 Aug 2009 13:57:55 -0400 Thu, 06 Aug 2009 13:57:55 -0400 Aug 6, 2009 Eric Jain 0 Who else implements rfc #66? http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=55359 There are several competing OSGi containers, but are there any web containers other than Spring dm that will do RFC-66 on the horizon? Standards don't mean much until there are two implementations.

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I think this feature is probably unnecessary 99% of the time (in my experience) but would really be a killer feature if you need it.

Fair enough, but frameworks need to focus on the 99%. Even if you used OSGi to...]]> Thu, 06 Aug 2009 12:47:27 -0400 Thu, 06 Aug 2009 12:47:27 -0400 Thu, 06 Aug 2009 12:47:27 -0400 Aug 6, 2009 James Watson 6 Re: Taking the wrong prespective, maybe http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=55359 I can easily envision services of a kind that are so frequently deployed and updated that it's not feasible to require a restart each time (and not necessary from an admin POV). Other kinds of upgrades, sure....]]> Thu, 06 Aug 2009 12:31:10 -0400 Thu, 06 Aug 2009 12:31:10 -0400 Thu, 06 Aug 2009 12:31:10 -0400 Aug 6, 2009 Emil Ong 0 Re: Why OSGi is cool, but not for most enterprise apps… http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=55359 The best content so far is in the blogosphere including the post on my blog....]]> Thu, 06 Aug 2009 12:22:38 -0400 Thu, 06 Aug 2009 12:22:38 -0400 Thu, 06 Aug 2009 12:22:38 -0400 Aug 6, 2009 Emil Ong 0 Re: Why OSGi is cool, but not for most enterprise apps… http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=55359 I think this feature is probably unnecessary 99% of the time (in my experience) but would really be a killer feature if you need it....]]> Thu, 06 Aug 2009 12:08:43 -0400 Thu, 06 Aug 2009 12:08:43 -0400 Thu, 06 Aug 2009 12:08:43 -0400 Aug 6, 2009 Emil Ong 8 Taking the wrong prespective, maybe http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=55359 Thu, 06 Aug 2009 11:58:16 -0400 Thu, 06 Aug 2009 11:58:16 -0400 Thu, 06 Aug 2009 11:58:16 -0400 Aug 6, 2009 Ulf Dittmer 1 Re: Why OSGi is cool, but not for most enterprise apps… http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=55359 Thu, 06 Aug 2009 11:55:03 -0400 Thu, 06 Aug 2009 11:55:03 -0400 Thu, 06 Aug 2009 11:55:03 -0400 Aug 6, 2009 andrewwell 0