Support Forums: Message List - EC formally objects to Oracle buying Sun... Now what? http://www.theserverside.com Most recent forum messages en Jive Forums Silver 5.5.30 (www.jivesoftware.com) Thu, 23 May 2013 18:03:30 -0400 Re: EC formally objects to Oracle buying Sun... Now what? http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=58433 Mon, 16 Nov 2009 13:37:46 -0500 Mon, 16 Nov 2009 13:37:46 -0500 Mon, 16 Nov 2009 13:37:46 -0500 Nov 16, 2009 Harimohan Bawa 0 Re: powers of the EC http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=58433 I suppose if neither Sun nor Oracle had any offices in the EU (just shipped there products to the EU and had them sold through independent resellers) then the EC would have no say in the merger....]]> Mon, 16 Nov 2009 09:22:03 -0500 Mon, 16 Nov 2009 09:22:03 -0500 Mon, 16 Nov 2009 09:22:03 -0500 Nov 16, 2009 James Watson 0 Re: powers of the EC http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=58433 If two European companies want to merge, does the US get the option to veto that?...]]> Sat, 14 Nov 2009 03:35:03 -0500 Sat, 14 Nov 2009 03:35:03 -0500 Sat, 14 Nov 2009 03:35:03 -0500 Nov 14, 2009 GeraldLoeffler 1 Re: EC formally objects to Oracle buying Sun... Now what? http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=58433 They could allow Oracle to fulfill existing contracts but ban them from new sales. When you are the government you can do whatever you want as long as you stay in power.

Stan...]]> Fri, 13 Nov 2009 16:08:01 -0500 Fri, 13 Nov 2009 16:08:01 -0500 Fri, 13 Nov 2009 16:08:01 -0500 Nov 13, 2009 James Watson 0 Re: EC formally objects to Oracle buying Sun... Now what? http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=58433 Fri, 13 Nov 2009 13:24:33 -0500 Fri, 13 Nov 2009 13:24:33 -0500 Fri, 13 Nov 2009 13:24:33 -0500 Nov 13, 2009 Stan Silvert 1 Re: EC formally objects to Oracle buying Sun... Now what? http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=58433 I know little/nothing about international law, but the authority problem doesn't appear that hard to me.

The EC has the authority to regulate commerce in its member nations. Of course the EC can't veto the merger in the US, but it...]]> Fri, 13 Nov 2009 13:09:58 -0500 Fri, 13 Nov 2009 13:09:58 -0500 Fri, 13 Nov 2009 13:09:58 -0500 Nov 13, 2009 James Watson 2 Re: EC formally objects to Oracle buying Sun... Now what? http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=58433 The EC has the authority to regulate commerce in its member nations. Of course the EC can't veto the merger in the US, but it can keep them from doing business in the EC if they violate its decisions. So the merger wouldn't happen if Oracle...]]> Fri, 13 Nov 2009 13:08:17 -0500 Fri, 13 Nov 2009 13:08:17 -0500 Fri, 13 Nov 2009 13:08:17 -0500 Nov 13, 2009 Stan Silvert 0 Re: EC formally objects to Oracle buying Sun... Now what? http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=58433
With this it's clear that Oracle really wants MySql more than anything else. Sun's purchasing MySql so Oracle could purchase Sun may have just been Oracle's way to get MySql in a way that the regulators might have...]]> Fri, 13 Nov 2009 13:03:43 -0500 Fri, 13 Nov 2009 13:03:43 -0500 Fri, 13 Nov 2009 13:03:43 -0500 Nov 13, 2009 Stan Silvert 4 Re: EC formally objects to Oracle buying Sun... Now what? http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=58433
With this it's clear that Oracle really wants MySql more than anything else. Sun's purchasing MySql so Oracle could purchase Sun may have just been Oracle's way to get MySql in a way that the regulators might have...]]> Fri, 13 Nov 2009 12:39:23 -0500 Fri, 13 Nov 2009 12:39:23 -0500 Fri, 13 Nov 2009 12:39:23 -0500 Nov 13, 2009 James Watson 5 Re: powers of the EC http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=58433
Can anyone point me to an explanation of what power the EC has in this situation and where it derives that power?


the EC enforces antitrust legislation on the European (EU) level for all its (currently 27)...]]> Fri, 13 Nov 2009 12:36:27 -0500 Fri, 13 Nov 2009 12:36:27 -0500 Fri, 13 Nov 2009 12:36:27 -0500 Nov 13, 2009 James Watson 2 Re: EC formally objects to Oracle buying Sun... Now what? http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=58433 With this it's clear that Oracle really wants MySql more than anything else. Sun's purchasing MySql so Oracle could purchase Sun may have just been Oracle's way to get MySql in a way that the regulators might have allowed.
...]]> Fri, 13 Nov 2009 11:05:11 -0500 Fri, 13 Nov 2009 11:05:11 -0500 Fri, 13 Nov 2009 11:05:11 -0500 Nov 13, 2009 Stan Silvert 6 Re: EC formally objects to Oracle buying Sun... Now what? http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=58433 Fri, 13 Nov 2009 10:33:11 -0500 Fri, 13 Nov 2009 10:33:11 -0500 Fri, 13 Nov 2009 10:33:11 -0500 Nov 13, 2009 DavidThi 7 powers of the EC http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=58433 Can anyone point me to an explanation of what power the EC has in this situation and where it derives that power?
...]]> Fri, 13 Nov 2009 10:11:56 -0500 Fri, 13 Nov 2009 10:11:56 -0500 Fri, 13 Nov 2009 10:11:56 -0500 Nov 13, 2009 GeraldLoeffler 3 Re: EC formally objects to Oracle buying Sun... Now what? http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=58433 Can anyone point me to an explanation of what power the EC has in this situation and where it derives that power?
Maybe because Oracle operates/sells in Europe too.]]> Fri, 13 Nov 2009 03:44:09 -0500 Fri, 13 Nov 2009 03:44:09 -0500 Fri, 13 Nov 2009 03:44:09 -0500 Nov 13, 2009 Dominique De Vito 0 Re: EC formally objects to Oracle buying Sun... Now what? http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=58433 Thu, 12 Nov 2009 17:29:18 -0500 Thu, 12 Nov 2009 17:29:18 -0500 Thu, 12 Nov 2009 17:29:18 -0500 Nov 12, 2009 Jordan Zimmerman 0