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First of all, "working" is hard to define. The people with this attitude usually think "works...]]> Fri, 16 Apr 2010 17:40:53 -0400 Fri, 16 Apr 2010 17:40:53 -0400 Fri, 16 Apr 2010 17:40:53 -0400 Apr 16, 2010 emvee 0 Every drug can become a poison... http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=59846 It's difficult to teach newbies the use of patterns as long as they haven't learned their lessions through own experience....]]> Thu, 08 Apr 2010 03:44:42 -0400 Thu, 08 Apr 2010 03:44:42 -0400 Thu, 08 Apr 2010 03:44:42 -0400 Apr 8, 2010 Marco Noname 0 Don't even leave them your number ;-) http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=59846 Thu, 08 Apr 2010 03:37:02 -0400 Thu, 08 Apr 2010 03:37:02 -0400 Thu, 08 Apr 2010 03:37:02 -0400 Apr 8, 2010 Marco Noname 0 Not everything has a name http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=59846
Here it is a problem, although the things...]]> Wed, 07 Apr 2010 17:06:32 -0400 Wed, 07 Apr 2010 17:06:32 -0400 Wed, 07 Apr 2010 17:06:32 -0400 Apr 7, 2010 Stelian Popa 1 No MVC in a web app - don't call me either http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=59846 ...]]> Wed, 07 Apr 2010 09:25:16 -0400 Wed, 07 Apr 2010 09:25:16 -0400 Wed, 07 Apr 2010 09:25:16 -0400 Apr 7, 2010 James Watson 0 Totally agree http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=59846
But to me that is not...]]> Wed, 07 Apr 2010 00:41:04 -0400 Wed, 07 Apr 2010 00:41:04 -0400 Wed, 07 Apr 2010 00:41:04 -0400 Apr 7, 2010 Steven Peh 0 No MVC in a web app - don't call me either http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=59846
This application was a 'dogs...]]> Tue, 06 Apr 2010 20:06:19 -0400 Tue, 06 Apr 2010 20:06:19 -0400 Tue, 06 Apr 2010 20:06:19 -0400 Apr 6, 2010 Chris Golfman 2 Re: Yakov Fain defends hacked-up code -- opinions? http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=59846 Tue, 06 Apr 2010 10:58:44 -0400 Tue, 06 Apr 2010 10:58:44 -0400 Tue, 06 Apr 2010 10:58:44 -0400 Apr 6, 2010 Marco Noname 3 Yakov Fain defends hacked-up code -- opinions? http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=59846
Unless the MVC abstraction makes sense in terms of the application that you are developing, you should not use it.  MVC came about...]]> Tue, 06 Apr 2010 10:47:06 -0400 Tue, 06 Apr 2010 10:47:06 -0400 Tue, 06 Apr 2010 10:47:06 -0400 Apr 6, 2010 John Reynolds 0 Yakov Fain defends hacked-up code -- opinions? http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=59846 Mon, 05 Apr 2010 16:44:08 -0400 Mon, 05 Apr 2010 16:44:08 -0400 Mon, 05 Apr 2010 16:44:08 -0400 Apr 5, 2010 Rhodriguez 0 Yakov Fain defends hacked-up code -- opinions? http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=59846
I think this is great insight and I often tend to do the same myself. The keys to succeeding in this, is of course being "aware" of the eventual patterns, having a decent test suite, continuous refactoring and avoiding...]]> Mon, 05 Apr 2010 13:19:17 -0400 Mon, 05 Apr 2010 13:19:17 -0400 Mon, 05 Apr 2010 13:19:17 -0400 Apr 5, 2010 Reza Rahman 0 Yakov Fain defends hacked-up code -- opinions? http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=59846
I took a drawing class years ago that taught me a great lesson about coding.  I started out drawing every aspect of a subject in...]]> Mon, 05 Apr 2010 10:01:19 -0400 Mon, 05 Apr 2010 10:01:19 -0400 Mon, 05 Apr 2010 10:01:19 -0400 Apr 5, 2010 Andrew Clifford 2 Value of Architecture http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=59846
On a slightly personal note, it was great to see Oracle's active participation in and sponsorship of TSSJS 2010. I thought it was a nice touch to have James Gosling speak in the keynote. I did not get a chance to attend...]]> Sun, 04 Apr 2010 16:32:05 -0400 Sun, 04 Apr 2010 16:32:05 -0400 Sun, 04 Apr 2010 16:32:05 -0400 Apr 4, 2010 Reza Rahman 0 Yes, it's 2010 now. Forget EJB and JSF http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=59846
The broad consensus based on Java...]]> Sun, 04 Apr 2010 16:20:29 -0400 Sun, 04 Apr 2010 16:20:29 -0400 Sun, 04 Apr 2010 16:20:29 -0400 Apr 4, 2010 Reza Rahman 0 Yes, it's 2010 now. Forget EJB and JSF http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=59846
whose idea was to introduce EJB lite to web profile.

Is there another web profile that does not include EJB. My only problem is that, if you give user crap, they will find a way to include crap.
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