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        <title>thankyou</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=71485</link>

        

        
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        <pubDate>Fri, 17 May 2013 14:30:21 -0400</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>May 17, 2013</jf:date>
        <jf:author>CK UK</jf:author>
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        <title>Your Java programs won't scale: A clear and concise explanation as to why</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=71485</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[<p>My Java programs always scale.</p>]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Wed, 20 Feb 2013 10:50:04 -0500</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Feb 20, 2013</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Alex Liebl</jf:author>
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        <title>Better</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=71485</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[<p>Agreed, can be a bit hit or miss these days. Can you suggest a better site?</p>]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Mon, 18 Feb 2013 15:05:30 -0500</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Feb 18, 2013</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Antony Stubbs</jf:author>
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        <title>lame</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=71485</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[<p>yes...it does not really tell us anything relevant</p>
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        <pubDate>Mon, 11 Feb 2013 01:56:47 -0500</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Feb 11, 2013</jf:date>
        <jf:author>club stork</jf:author>
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        <title>list</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=71485</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[<p>a list would be nice if anyone gets to share it here&nbsp;<a href="http://www.colemanworks.net/top-holiday-gifts-for-graphic-designers/" target="_blank">gift idea for designer</a></p>]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Mon, 11 Feb 2013 01:48:21 -0500</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Feb 11, 2013</jf:date>
        <jf:author>colemanworks</jf:author>
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        <title>bs article</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=71485</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[<p>Then what's your recommended java tech sites?</p>]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Thu, 24 Jan 2013 00:57:25 -0500</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Jan 24, 2013</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Chuan Chen</jf:author>
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        <title>Lame article</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=71485</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[<p>That is a lame article. It has nothing to do with Java. Writing non-trivial applications that scale easily is hard no matter the language you use. Guess what, it takes real experience, skill and dedication. The real problem isn't the language or even...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Sun, 20 Jan 2013 15:55:19 -0500</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Jan 20, 2013</jf:date>
        <jf:author>peter lin</jf:author>
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        <title>bs article</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=71485</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[<p>If Java would not be scalable, then why is java still used to provide the core functionality. E.g. the actors framework relying on java implemented queue implementations or the java implemented ForkJoinPool.&nbsp;<br/><br/>Imho this is a bs article......]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Thu, 17 Jan 2013 03:20:14 -0500</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Jan 17, 2013</jf:date>
        <jf:author>peter veentjer</jf:author>
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        <title>So, Its not the programming language, its the programmers ...</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=71485</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[<p>OR better yet "Java has limits to scalability but you probably will never reach them"</p>]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Wed, 16 Jan 2013 09:53:12 -0500</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Jan 16, 2013</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Mark N</jf:author>
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        <title>So, Its not the programming language, its the programmers ...</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=71485</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[<p>Dear Cameron, The articla should be called something like "java programs hard to scale".</p>...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Tue, 15 Jan 2013 14:36:47 -0500</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Jan 15, 2013</jf:date>
        <jf:author>ehud tavor</jf:author>
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        <title>Question to the author</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=71485</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[<p>Hi, few lines that you outlined as an advantage actually sounded like newer languagues are made keeping in mind careless developers? Btw here are your lines and then you may also want to compare them with the behaviour of thread safe collection of...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Tue, 15 Jan 2013 02:26:40 -0500</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Jan 15, 2013</jf:date>
        <jf:author>abhinavarora</jf:author>
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        <title>huh?</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=71485</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[<p>how can you make a statement that java applications dont scale? &nbsp;That is the dumbest thing i have ever heard. &nbsp;Please tell me how i am achieveing a linear scalability with my java application processing over 88,000 transactions per second?...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Mon, 14 Jan 2013 21:41:04 -0500</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Jan 14, 2013</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Nathaniel Auvil</jf:author>
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        <title>Only one comment here....</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=71485</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[<p>If&nbsp;STM is easier to write (and understand) it is more likely to get right....which is why I emphasized correctness and ease of use in my first reply.</p>]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Mon, 14 Jan 2013 15:06:39 -0500</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Jan 14, 2013</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Aldrich Wright</jf:author>
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        <title>They scale the way i need them to</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=71485</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[<p>Quote from the first link: "<span>S<em>o for the vast majority of users, the problem Java applications have with achieving linear scalability is simply a trivial point of interest.</em>" &nbsp;I totally agree.</span></p>...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Mon, 14 Jan 2013 09:38:56 -0500</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Jan 14, 2013</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Mark N</jf:author>
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        <title>Horizontal Scaling has worked for a long time</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=71485</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[<p>JMS has been used for load/balancing high/availability fault/tolerance for a long time in the enterprise world...</p>]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Sun, 13 Jan 2013 18:48:08 -0500</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Jan 13, 2013</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Lyndon Samson</jf:author>
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