A new whitepaper, 'J2EE Reference Architectures: A Foundation for Robust J2EE Systems', by The Middleware Company, discusses how to build J2EE systems quickly and effectively using reference architectures. This whitepaper is now freely available for download.
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Whitepaper on J2EE Reference Architectures by TMC (15 messages)
- Posted by: Nate Borg
- Posted on: October 28 2002 10:27 EST
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- Whitepaper on J2EE Reference Architectures by TMC by Nehal Vaidya on October 29 2002 13:07 EST
- Whitepaper on J2EE Reference Architectures by TMC by Jean-Louis Marechaux on October 29 2002 13:11 EST
- Whitepaper on J2EE Reference Architectures by TMC by Douglas Vanderpool on October 29 2002 13:27 EST
- Whitepaper on J2EE Reference Architectures by TMC by Nate Borg on October 29 2002 01:31 EST
- Whitepaper on J2EE Reference Architectures by TMC by Mark Matthews on October 29 2002 01:33 EST
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Whitepaper on J2EE Reference Architectures by TMC by Jin Chun on October 29 2002 01:48 EST
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Whitepaper on J2EE Reference Architectures by TMC by Rogerio Liesenfeld on October 29 2002 02:14 EST
- Whitepaper on J2EE Reference Architectures by TMC by Laurent Rieu on October 30 2002 05:01 EST
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Whitepaper on J2EE Reference Architectures by TMC by Mileta Cekovic on October 30 2002 09:20 EST
- Patterns vs. Idioms by James Higginbotham on November 01 2002 06:44 EST
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Whitepaper on J2EE Reference Architectures by TMC by Rogerio Liesenfeld on October 29 2002 02:14 EST
- Whitepaper on J2EE Reference Architectures by TMC by Kumar Mettu on October 29 2002 14:14 EST
- Whitepaper on J2EE Reference Architectures by TMC by Raj S on October 30 2002 09:01 EST
- Whitepaper on J2EE Reference Architectures by TMC by Argyn K on October 30 2002 09:38 EST
- Totally Useless by Ethan Allen on November 01 2002 14:38 EST
- Totally Useless by Rod Johnson on November 04 2002 04:32 EST
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- Posted by: Nehal Vaidya
- Posted on: October 29 2002 13:07 EST
- in response to Nate Borg
The File seems to be damaged. I couldn't download it. -
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- Posted by: Jean-Louis Marechaux
- Posted on: October 29 2002 13:11 EST
- in response to Nehal Vaidya
Same problem for me -
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- Posted by: Douglas Vanderpool
- Posted on: October 29 2002 13:27 EST
- in response to Nehal Vaidya
Same for me as well... Has anyone successfully viewed the document? -
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- Posted by: Nate Borg
- Posted on: October 29 2002 13:31 EST
- in response to Douglas Vanderpool
Sorry about this guys. We're working on resolving this problem. It will be fixed momentarily.
-Nitin -
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- Posted by: Mark Matthews
- Posted on: October 29 2002 13:33 EST
- in response to Douglas Vanderpool
Seems to work if you skip the email-grabber by clicking the tiny link "No, thanks. Let me in" -
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- Posted by: Jin Chun
- Posted on: October 29 2002 13:48 EST
- in response to Douglas Vanderpool
where's the beef :-) -
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- Posted by: Rogerio Liesenfeld
- Posted on: October 29 2002 14:14 EST
- in response to Jin Chun
If you are interested in a really good set of design patterns for J2EE (much better than the ones from TSS, IMHO) check out Martin Fowler's site:
http://www.martinfowler.com/isa/index.html
The book, "Patterns of Enterprise Application Architecture", should be available in Amazon.com in the next few weeks. I can't wait to get my hands on it!
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- Posted by: Laurent Rieu
- Posted on: October 30 2002 05:01 EST
- in response to Rogerio Liesenfeld
Yeah, I've read all the chapters available on the web site, and the book looks damn promising ! Full of interesting patterns and architectural suggestion. Maybe some kind of new "pattern bible" ?
Laurent -
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- Posted by: Mileta Cekovic
- Posted on: October 30 2002 09:20 EST
- in response to Rogerio Liesenfeld
If you are interested in a really good set of design patterns for J2EE (much better than the ones from TSS, IMHO) check out Martin Fowler's site:
http://www.martinfowler.com/isa/index.html
You are very right! Martin Fawler's book is indeed unique in that it provides patterns for building enterprise applications regardless of infrastructure and technology used. All of the patterns used can be applied to J2EE or .NET, or J2SE + RMI/CORBA or whatever your infrastructure is.
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- Posted by: James Higginbotham
- Posted on: November 01 2002 06:44 EST
- in response to Mileta Cekovic
"All of the patterns used can be applied to J2EE or .NET, or J2SE + RMI/CORBA or whatever your infrastructure is."
Er, um:
"Idioms represent low-level patterns. In constrast to design patterns, which address general structural principals, idioms solve implementation-specific problems in a programming language." -- A System of Patterns, Buschmann
Thus, Fowler named it patterns, not Java or J2EE idioms. Glad to see the book, as its much needed.
James -
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- Posted by: Kumar Mettu
- Posted on: October 29 2002 14:14 EST
- in response to Nehal Vaidya
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- Posted by: Raj S
- Posted on: October 30 2002 09:01 EST
- in response to Nate Borg
No Great Inforamation.....
RAJ -
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- Posted by: Argyn K
- Posted on: October 30 2002 09:38 EST
- in response to Raj S
No information at all. -
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- Posted by: Ethan Allen
- Posted on: November 01 2002 14:38 EST
- in response to Nate Borg
Jejune.
This rehash of common knowledge reads like an Indian grad student being pushed to publish something to promote himself and the company.
This is not a good advertisement for TMC, IMO. -
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- Posted by: Rod Johnson
- Posted on: November 04 2002 04:32 EST
- in response to Ethan Allen
Ethan, the Indian education system is pretty good, so I don't see why an Indian grad student would be any more likely to produce a poor paper than anyone else...
Back to the point, I agree with yours and other people's comments on this paper. It's not totally useless but it is superficial and doesn't add anything to common knowledge.
The concept of Reference Architectures is valuable, with one caveat. I've seen lots of projects go wrong because people were determined to apply patterns they'd read about, even if they didn't find the problem. The Java Pet Store is a perfect example of this, and this is a major reason it is so verbose and has such poor performance. So yes, patterns are great, but look at the problem in hand first to ensure patterns you use are a good fit. The business should drive the technology, not the reverse.
Martin Fowler is one of my favourite writers, so I'd expect his new book to be worth reading. My new book, Expert One-On-One J2EE Design and Development, also takes a fresh and sometimes critical look at J2EE patterns. It certainly isn't a "rehash of common knowledge".