IBM has broadened its developerWorks Toolbox subscription service with new products and a new cheap starter level that includes Websphere studio, application server, DB2 and more. Similar to MSDN, this service allows you to pay a yearly fee for CD or download access to most of IBM's software.
Read : IBM aims developerWorks toolkit at SMBs, and check out DeveloperWorks Toolbox.
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IBM offering developer products subscription similar to MSDN (10 messages)
- Posted by: Diego Visentin
- Posted on: February 27 2003 10:40 EST
Threaded Messages (10)
- Are days of free stuff over? by Collin Goredema on February 27 2003 19:10 EST
- Are days of free stuff over? by Massimo Santin on February 28 2003 14:00 EST
- Are days of free stuff over? by Akin Bolarinwa on March 01 2003 00:24 EST
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Are days of free stuff over? by Zulfikar Dharmawan on March 02 2003 06:45 EST
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Hefty Pricing from Small vendors! by Christopher Wells on March 03 2003 12:22 EST
- Hefty Pricing from Small vendors! by Mark N on March 03 2003 08:25 EST
- Are days of free stuff over? by Mark N on March 03 2003 08:28 EST
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Hefty Pricing from Small vendors! by Christopher Wells on March 03 2003 12:22 EST
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Are days of free stuff over? by Zulfikar Dharmawan on March 02 2003 06:45 EST
- rational product? by Hemant Gohil on February 28 2003 12:41 EST
- Re: Rational Software by Chris Knoll on February 28 2003 16:22 EST
- Some restrictions by Jouni Juutinen on March 04 2003 02:09 EST
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Are days of free stuff over?[ Go to top ]
- Posted by: Collin Goredema
- Posted on: February 27 2003 19:10 EST
- in response to Diego Visentin
With the Javaworld subscription issue for archives, and now IBM..are the days of freebies over for us Java folks? Well, we still have the strong Apache Software Foundation! -
Are days of free stuff over?[ Go to top ]
- Posted by: Massimo Santin
- Posted on: February 28 2003 14:00 EST
- in response to Collin Goredema
With the Javaworld subscription issue for archives, and now IBM..are the days of freebies over for us Java folks?
This is a different stuff! This is good because the subscription give you full licenses for some IBM software products. You can save money.
Bye.
Massimo Santin -
Are days of free stuff over?[ Go to top ]
- Posted by: Akin Bolarinwa
- Posted on: March 01 2003 00:24 EST
- in response to Collin Goredema
Close to $2000 for subscription that includes an IDE that a professional would like to have in his/her toolkit? The subscription that include WS Studio 5 is pricey.
Especially considering that Eclipse is free, and WS Studio is based on Eclipse. Am I missing something? -
Are days of free stuff over?[ Go to top ]
- Posted by: Zulfikar Dharmawan
- Posted on: March 02 2003 06:45 EST
- in response to Akin Bolarinwa
Especially considering that Eclipse is free, and WS Studio is based on Eclipse. Am I missing something?
I think if you use WS Studio Application Developer, you won't need to install WS App. Server, because it provides you with the environment of the app. server. You won't get that in Eclipse, won't you? -
Hefty Pricing from Small vendors![ Go to top ]
- Posted by: Christopher Wells
- Posted on: March 03 2003 00:22 EST
- in response to Zulfikar Dharmawan
<> Are Days of free stuff over?<>
IBM's move like MSDN seems to look better than an esoteric J2EE vendors who charge as much as $10,000 for educational licenses.
Shouldn't it be free atleast for educational stuff?I have heard SUN,IBM and BEA offering funding and free licenses to Universities and associated laboratories.
http://www.pramati.com/partner/edu_training/index.htm
http://www.pramati.com/docstore/2060009/prg_edu.pdf
Manoj Shirke -
Hefty Pricing from Small vendors![ Go to top ]
- Posted by: Mark N
- Posted on: March 03 2003 08:25 EST
- in response to Christopher Wells
This subscription has been available for a few years.
It has 3 levels the lowest being free.
What one gets for 2K is incredible. BTW, it was discounted greatly late last year. -
Are days of free stuff over?[ Go to top ]
- Posted by: Mark N
- Posted on: March 03 2003 08:28 EST
- in response to Zulfikar Dharmawan
Things not available with Eclipse:
XML\XSL editor.
EJB development tool.
GUI development tool. -
rational product?[ Go to top ]
- Posted by: Hemant Gohil
- Posted on: February 28 2003 12:41 EST
- in response to Diego Visentin
Will any of Rational products included in future ?
Any idea ? -
Re: Rational Software[ Go to top ]
- Posted by: Chris Knoll
- Posted on: February 28 2003 16:22 EST
- in response to Hemant Gohil
Hot damn! if they had a subscription that had rational tools, J2EE server, DB2 database, and IDE, that would be some sweeeeet juice. Definitely something i'd look at to get my horizon broadened.
-Chris -
Some restrictions[ Go to top ]
- Posted by: Jouni Juutinen
- Posted on: March 04 2003 02:09 EST
- in response to Diego Visentin
It might be good to notice that in licence text IBM restricts the use of Toolbox in commercial projects.
We asked IBM if this restriction means that we are not allowed to use Toolbox software to develope software in our customer projects (we are an IT-company) and the answer was no. According to IBM we can use Toolbox software to evaluate and test IBM products (like Websphere Studio etc.), but we cannot use the for commercial purposes.
From our point this makes Toolbox pretty much useless and doesn't really save any money because we can download most of the software for evaluation purposes anyway.
Licence: http://www-106.ibm.com/developerworks/toolbox/language/iplaen.html
(4) Usage
You may only use the Offering for the sole purposes of developing, testing, demonstrating and evaluating application Programs. The Offering may not be used for production use or deployed for any other purposes. Testing, as defined in this Agreement, only includes the use of the Offering Programs with simulated test data for verification of an application prior to the deployment or sale of the application. Testing, as defined in this Agreement, does NOT include the use of the Offering
Programs: with production data, with operational data, in a pre-production environment, or in a staging environment.