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            <description><![CDATA[Elaine: &quot;As for IT wanting everything from one vendor - of course they do, it means they don't have to learn as much and their lives are easier. But, ease of maintenance is only one consideration in software development, and truth be told, a very...]]></description>
        

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            <description><![CDATA[&quot;People who fail always find excuses, be it j2ee, VB or .net. I'm sure that if one is stupid enough to fail with j2ee, he'd fail with anything else. Basically, losers fail, it's about people, not technology.&quot; ...]]></description>
        

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            <description><![CDATA[It's always about people. Don't blame the gun for the killing.]]></description>
        

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            <description><![CDATA[<div class="jive-quote">J2EE project failures outnumber all other projects that involve non-J2EE platforms, on the other hand! </div>...]]></description>
        

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            <description><![CDATA[<div class="jive-quote">I don't see enterprise projects with .NET yet, there are many with j2ee. </div>...]]></description>
        

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            <description><![CDATA[<div class="jive-quote">I don't think Java or .NET is ever going to win, unless either side makes something so remarkable, that it blows away the competition. </div>...]]></description>
        

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            <description><![CDATA[Why is SUN complaining JSDK 1.4 doesn't run on Windows? I've had no real problems other than the ones that the INCOMPATIBLE interpreters use....]]></description>
        

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            <description><![CDATA[I was trying to be clever since Jason is at the Science and Engineering center. ;)]]></description>
        

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            <description><![CDATA[The irony of modern software development: Rigorous Calculus and Physics classes are required for a Computer Science degree and seldom if ever used on the job.]]></description>
        

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            <description><![CDATA[<div class="jive-quote">SUN is just jealous of Microsofts success and cannot come up with a BETTER operating system than they, so they are trying to tag along with their success. </div>...]]></description>
        

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            <description><![CDATA[Adam: &quot;No company, organization, governing body should have the right to force what a company can and can't develop.&quot;...]]></description>
        

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            <description><![CDATA[Luckily, English isn't required to be a programmer.  Sometimes knowing math isn't even required!
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<br>Steve]]></description>
        

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            <description><![CDATA[oops, sorry Steve.  I keep telling myself that one of these days I ought to learn to read.
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<br>Northwest Alliance for Computational Science and Engineering]]></description>
        

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            <description><![CDATA[I think one of the MAJOR benefits of this ruling is that people will get out of the dinosaur-age of writing to the 1.1 api (soley for making the app work on MS jvm) and start working with the current 1.4 api.  I float around javagaming.org and many...]]></description>
        

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            <description><![CDATA[Jason, I was replying to a different poster.  I agree with pretty much everything you've said.
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<br>:)
<br>Steve]]></description>
        

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