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        <title>Web Frameworks</title>
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            <description><![CDATA[Hi, everyone found very usefull all this discussion. I am new on Java Web Frameworks and would like to conclude my thoughts on which one is good to learn. ...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Tue, 19 Sep 2006 14:03:50 -0400</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Sep 19, 2006</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Kazi Rameez Uddin</jf:author>
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        <title>What a Load of Crap</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=24897</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[I have 25 years of programming experience, including working for Microsoft and Sun on Java technologies, and I've used virtually every framework and templating engine out there over the past 7 years.  All of them have some fatal defect, except Tapestry....]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Sat, 17 Apr 2004 14:49:23 -0400</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Apr 17, 2004</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Jonathan Locke</jf:author>
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        <title>TSS Book Review: Tapestry In Action</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=24897</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[<i>Other than JSF being a standard, is there anything about JSF that can be considered superior to Tapestry. Can JSF do anything that Tapestry cant.</i> <br><br>It has better support for existing standards (taglibs for example, which Tapestry doesn't...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Wed, 07 Apr 2004 08:42:36 -0400</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Apr 7, 2004</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Ray Offiah</jf:author>
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        <title>Examples of Tapestry in production?</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=24897</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[We don't have a system in production yet, but we have a complex system (about 100 pages, and about 100 components) with 300 to 600 component instantiations per page and a deepest nesting typically of 6.<br><br>Our application is a 'web application'...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Tue, 06 Apr 2004 22:13:05 -0400</pubDate>

        

        <jf:creationDate>Tue, 06 Apr 2004 22:13:05 -0400</jf:creationDate>
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        <jf:date>Apr 6, 2004</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Tom Davies</jf:author>
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        <title>Examples of Tapestry in production?</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=24897</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[nhl.com, portions of smartprice.com<br><br>This is a frequent request. I hope to have some examples I've personally worked on within a few months.<br><br>WebObjects had a habit of keeping multiple copies of the same object around in memory.  That's where...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Tue, 06 Apr 2004 16:09:06 -0400</pubDate>

        

        <jf:creationDate>Tue, 06 Apr 2004 16:09:06 -0400</jf:creationDate>
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        <jf:date>Apr 6, 2004</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Howard Lewis Ship</jf:author>
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        <title>Tapestry vs JSF: an apology</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=24897</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[Howard, I am sorry u feel this way. I dont think that Tapestry VS JSF discussion on this thread is that bad after all. Maybe it is slightly off topic, but it is really useful. I have neither used Tapestry nor JSF, and I am at a point where i am about to...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Tue, 06 Apr 2004 15:32:01 -0400</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Apr 6, 2004</jf:date>
        <jf:author>NullPtr !</jf:author>
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        <title>Examples of Tapestry in production?</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=24897</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[I'm really excited by what I've seen of Tapestry, but I'm not quite at the point where I could recommend it's use on a production website yet. My main concern is scaleability and performance. The approach seems likely to be more processor intensive than...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Tue, 06 Apr 2004 15:04:20 -0400</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Apr 6, 2004</jf:date>
        <jf:author>David Friar</jf:author>
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        <title>Tapestry vs JSF: an apology</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=24897</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[<blockquote>TSS needs a retract button. As annoying as this Tapestry vs. JSF discussion is, it is not Mr. Steckleberg's responsibility and I apologize for being so rude myself as to accuse him.  But I would like more discussion about Tapestry and the...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Tue, 06 Apr 2004 13:22:32 -0400</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Apr 6, 2004</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Henrique Steckelberg</jf:author>
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        <title>Tapestry vs JSF: an apology</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=24897</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[TSS needs a retract button. As annoying as this Tapestry vs. JSF discussion is, it is not Mr. Steckleberg's responsibility and I apologize for being so rude myself as to accuse him.  But I would like more discussion about Tapestry and the book!]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Tue, 06 Apr 2004 12:24:17 -0400</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Apr 6, 2004</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Howard Lewis Ship</jf:author>
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        <title>Tapestry vs JSF</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=24897</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[<blockquote>I am not saying that tapestry doesn't rock, it does. But to compare it to JSF as it stands right now is unfair and misleading.</blockquote>Yes, it is very misleading to compare a real, working, open-source product with several years of...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Tue, 06 Apr 2004 12:20:41 -0400</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Apr 6, 2004</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Howard Lewis Ship</jf:author>
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        <title>Re: JSF limitations, Stanard followers are so blind</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=24897</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[I am not sure why Mr. Mann insists on promoting inferior technology, i.e. promote JSF. Evidently, you have not written a great deal of JSF, JSP or Struts code, or EJB to see the nasty unneeded complexity of the screwed up J2EE apis. You really need...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Tue, 06 Apr 2004 11:54:09 -0400</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Apr 6, 2004</jf:date>
        <jf:author>someuser</jf:author>
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        <title>Tapestry vs JSF</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=24897</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[<blockquote>Well... I guess you answer the question of what the difference is :)I think one of the problems that people have with JSF is that they have heard the words &quot;Just wait&quot; way too often (you use them as well). It does get old after a...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Tue, 06 Apr 2004 11:20:27 -0400</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Apr 6, 2004</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Henrique Steckelberg</jf:author>
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        <title>Re: JSF limitations</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=24897</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[I just wanted to correct a few misconceptions about JSF:<br><br>- For starters, JSF is using Tags to define its components and that automatically leads to several problems<br><br>By default, it uses JSP tags, but that's by no means a...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Tue, 06 Apr 2004 10:05:56 -0400</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Apr 6, 2004</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Kito Mann</jf:author>
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        <title>Re: JSF tools</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=24897</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[Gerry,<br><br>FYI, several other tools for JSF are in the works (including ones from Borland, Oracle, and Exadel). You can find a full list at JSF Central.<br><br>Kito D. Mann <br>Author, JSF in Action<br><a href="http://www.JSFCentral.com"...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Tue, 06 Apr 2004 09:55:54 -0400</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Apr 6, 2004</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Kito Mann</jf:author>
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        <title>Tapestry Tree Component</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=24897</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[<blockquote>PS2: I needed an hierarquical tree component for tapestry for a project of mine but couldn't find it, can someone point the direction to me? If it doesn't exist, either I'll have to build one myself, or JSF already has something that tapestry...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Tue, 06 Apr 2004 09:39:53 -0400</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Apr 6, 2004</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Erik Hatcher</jf:author>
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