http://www.theserverside.com Most recent forum messages en Jive Forums Silver 5.5.30 (www.jivesoftware.com) Sat, 25 May 2013 05:17:18 -0400 http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=29456 Sun, 17 Oct 2004 10:42:24 -0400 Sun, 17 Oct 2004 10:42:24 -0400 Sun, 17 Oct 2004 10:42:24 -0400 Oct 17, 2004 traceroute 0 http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=29456 So far all complex system rely on “strong compile time enforced type safety” so the need for IDL/WSDL/Interface(RMI)/ODL etc.Whether or not type safety should be enforced is a design decision - no reason for the...]]> Fri, 15 Oct 2004 18:05:07 -0400 Fri, 15 Oct 2004 18:05:07 -0400 Fri, 15 Oct 2004 18:05:07 -0400 Oct 15, 2004 han theman 0 http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=29456 Take away IDL, for instance. It's not needed. Neither is WSDL. Somebody wrote (sarcasm):.... no need for RDBMS, it is all byte stream anyway…...

So far all complex system rely on “strong compile time enforced...]]> Fri, 15 Oct 2004 17:18:29 -0400 Fri, 15 Oct 2004 17:18:29 -0400 Fri, 15 Oct 2004 17:18:29 -0400 Oct 15, 2004 Konstantin Ignatyev 1 http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=29456 CORBA spec, from the ground up envisaged the common business problems encountered like:

- Capability to create objects on the fly and return obj-refs
- Scalability on the server side
- Message ordering and delivery
- Ability...]]> Fri, 15 Oct 2004 16:50:00 -0400 Fri, 15 Oct 2004 16:50:00 -0400 Fri, 15 Oct 2004 16:50:00 -0400 Oct 15, 2004 han theman 1 http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=29456 Han, you're really way off track here.First of all you piss on everything without having the decency of assuming an opinion, saying "yeah, CORBA and ws suck, however i think x is better because it does this and that...]]> Fri, 15 Oct 2004 16:44:10 -0400 Fri, 15 Oct 2004 16:44:10 -0400 Fri, 15 Oct 2004 16:44:10 -0400 Oct 15, 2004 han theman 2 http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=29456 I agree that there were some interop problems between the different implementations of CORBA. When multiple companies implement the same specification, this is bound to happen.There was initial CORBA ‘mistake’: it did...]]> Fri, 15 Oct 2004 14:31:17 -0400 Fri, 15 Oct 2004 14:31:17 -0400 Fri, 15 Oct 2004 14:31:17 -0400 Oct 15, 2004 Konstantin Ignatyev 0 http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=29456 Regarding security, I thought that it was left up to the transport layer (http as is typically the case) to ensure secured communications, perhaps by using https?You mention transport security, which is limited to a client/server...]]> Fri, 15 Oct 2004 14:10:15 -0400 Fri, 15 Oct 2004 14:10:15 -0400 Fri, 15 Oct 2004 14:10:15 -0400 Oct 15, 2004 Brian Miller 0 http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=29456
Coming from a CORBA background, I shudder when I look at the web services specification. A great thing that went for CORBA spec is that the three crucial...]]> Fri, 15 Oct 2004 14:09:12 -0400 Fri, 15 Oct 2004 14:09:12 -0400 Fri, 15 Oct 2004 14:09:12 -0400 Oct 15, 2004 Vishy Kasar 3 http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=29456 Fri, 15 Oct 2004 10:38:37 -0400 Fri, 15 Oct 2004 10:38:37 -0400 Fri, 15 Oct 2004 10:38:37 -0400 Oct 15, 2004 double think 1 http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=29456
If the specs are supposed to allow the kind of composition Steve talks about, I'd have thought this high-level context should...]]> Fri, 15 Oct 2004 10:13:26 -0400 Fri, 15 Oct 2004 10:13:26 -0400 Fri, 15 Oct 2004 10:13:26 -0400 Oct 15, 2004 Dan Creswell 0 http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=29456 There is nothing complex in CORBA, it has sound architecture and easy to use implementation. IMO it is pretty much everything we need for comp-to-comp interactions.( Well ICE protocol seem to offer real improvements to CORBA but I would say...]]> Fri, 15 Oct 2004 09:03:17 -0400 Fri, 15 Oct 2004 09:03:17 -0400 Fri, 15 Oct 2004 09:03:17 -0400 Oct 15, 2004 Bill Burke 0 http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=29456 Fri, 15 Oct 2004 07:01:18 -0400 Fri, 15 Oct 2004 07:01:18 -0400 Fri, 15 Oct 2004 07:01:18 -0400 Oct 15, 2004 Gurkan Erdogdu 2 http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=29456
First of all you piss on everything without having the decency of assuming an opinion, saying "yeah, CORBA and ws suck, however i think x is better because it does this and that...]]> Fri, 15 Oct 2004 05:15:25 -0400 Fri, 15 Oct 2004 05:15:25 -0400 Fri, 15 Oct 2004 05:15:25 -0400 Oct 15, 2004 Radu-Adrian Popescu 3 http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=29456 It similar to using Struts, which is the "coporate standard", but it did not come from the vendors.Good luck to you SoA prationers of going to production, I can say is the benefits are there..V+1. I have been involved...]]> Fri, 15 Oct 2004 02:39:31 -0400 Fri, 15 Oct 2004 02:39:31 -0400 Fri, 15 Oct 2004 02:39:31 -0400 Oct 15, 2004 Ashok Shetty 0 http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=29456 There is nothing complex in CORBA, it has sound architecture and easy to use implementation.Sound architecture? For mickey mouse application... sure.

There is no standard CORBA implementation, obvisouly. And the standard...]]> Fri, 15 Oct 2004 02:00:26 -0400 Fri, 15 Oct 2004 02:00:26 -0400 Fri, 15 Oct 2004 02:00:26 -0400 Oct 15, 2004 han theman 4