Support Forums: Message List - Oracle becomes sponsor and co-spec lead of EJB 3 http://www.theserverside.com Most recent forum messages en Jive Forums Silver 5.5.30 (www.jivesoftware.com) Wed, 22 May 2013 15:21:29 -0400 Oracle becomes sponsor and co-spec lead of EJB 3 http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=34877 My critizism was for Oracle, if you look at the low quality of Oracle's Java products with relationship to its database incenses revenue - you clearly see, contribution to java is really weak.I may be wrong, tell me, anyone - what java...]]> Wed, 06 Jul 2005 14:34:18 -0400 Wed, 06 Jul 2005 14:34:18 -0400 Wed, 06 Jul 2005 14:34:18 -0400 Jul 6, 2005 Mike Keith 0 Oracle becomes sponsor and co-spec lead of EJB 3 http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=34877 Wed, 06 Jul 2005 11:35:24 -0400 Wed, 06 Jul 2005 11:35:24 -0400 Wed, 06 Jul 2005 11:35:24 -0400 Jul 6, 2005 Mike Lehmann 0 Oracle becomes sponsor and co-spec lead of EJB 3 http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=34877 With respect to the EJB stuff, it is the Toplink group that is working with Sun on the spec. Toplink has a much longer, and (with respect to Java) more successful track record then Oracle. Mike is also well respected in the industry of...]]> Wed, 06 Jul 2005 02:20:49 -0400 Wed, 06 Jul 2005 02:20:49 -0400 Wed, 06 Jul 2005 02:20:49 -0400 Jul 6, 2005 George Jiang 0 Oracle becomes sponsor and co-spec lead of EJB 3 http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=34877 I think before somebody becomes a co-spec of EJB 3, they should have some kind of "actual" credibility. If money is the only criteria, then let Wal-Mart become a co-spec of EJB 3 as well.
Your issue is with Oracle,...]]> Tue, 05 Jul 2005 12:48:59 -0400 Tue, 05 Jul 2005 12:48:59 -0400 Tue, 05 Jul 2005 12:48:59 -0400 Jul 5, 2005 Matt Giacomini 1 Oracle becomes sponsor and co-spec lead of EJB 3 http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=34877 I think before somebody becomes a co-spec of EJB 3, they should have some kind of "actual" credibility.
As a member of the EJB3 expert group and a direct competitor of Oracle's offering in the ORM arena, I can assure...]]> Tue, 05 Jul 2005 02:25:04 -0400 Tue, 05 Jul 2005 02:25:04 -0400 Tue, 05 Jul 2005 02:25:04 -0400 Jul 5, 2005 Patrick Linskey 0 Oracle becomes sponsor and co-spec lead of EJB 3 http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=34877 Mon, 04 Jul 2005 14:14:30 -0400 Mon, 04 Jul 2005 14:14:30 -0400 Mon, 04 Jul 2005 14:14:30 -0400 Jul 4, 2005 Luis . 0 Why would Oracle want to support something that is gonna die:) http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=34877
I think you should visit this site here if you are concerned about high priced containers. These guys have been around for 6 years ;-) and have more market share than Oracle, IBM, or BEA.

For someone who complains a...]]> Mon, 04 Jul 2005 10:50:50 -0400 Mon, 04 Jul 2005 10:50:50 -0400 Mon, 04 Jul 2005 10:50:50 -0400 Jul 4, 2005 Cameron Purdy 0 Oracle becomes sponsor and co-spec lead of EJB 3 http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=34877
Of course, the development and evolution of java by everyone is...]]> Mon, 04 Jul 2005 08:13:33 -0400 Mon, 04 Jul 2005 08:13:33 -0400 Mon, 04 Jul 2005 08:13:33 -0400 Jul 4, 2005 George De La Torre 4 Oracle becomes sponsor and co-spec lead of EJB 3 http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=34877 Oracle has not earned the right to contribute to the J2EE community!
There is no need for this type of elitest crap. Unlike you I'm sure most people would love to see the whole world involved in the development and evolution...]]> Mon, 04 Jul 2005 00:24:59 -0400 Mon, 04 Jul 2005 00:24:59 -0400 Mon, 04 Jul 2005 00:24:59 -0400 Jul 4, 2005 Matt Giacomini 5 Oracle becomes sponsor and co-spec lead of EJB 3 http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=34877
I sent you email concerning my issues with Oracle's quality of service regarding Java tools.

You have not responded, no surprise, Oracle's strategy of putting R&D money over to India is factual evidence of agenda.

I...]]> Sun, 03 Jul 2005 23:26:42 -0400 Sun, 03 Jul 2005 23:26:42 -0400 Sun, 03 Jul 2005 23:26:42 -0400 Jul 3, 2005 George De La Torre 7 Why would Oracle want to support something that is gonna die:) http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=34877 My biggest gripe with EJB(1,2 or 3) is that you need a high priced container to stage things(well if you go the Geranimo way or something free and stable...no).
There are almost as many free application server as non-free...]]> Fri, 01 Jul 2005 15:31:43 -0400 Fri, 01 Jul 2005 15:31:43 -0400 Fri, 01 Jul 2005 15:31:43 -0400 Jul 1, 2005 Matt Giacomini 0 Why would Oracle want to support something that is gonna die:) http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=34877 My biggest gripe with EJB(1,2 or 3) is that you need a high priced container
I think you should visit this site here if you are concerned about high priced containers. These...]]> Fri, 01 Jul 2005 13:12:54 -0400 Fri, 01 Jul 2005 13:12:54 -0400 Fri, 01 Jul 2005 13:12:54 -0400 Jul 1, 2005 Bill Burke 1 Curious to know... http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=34877 Will Oracle allow me to use Hibernate3 instead of TopLink?
yes, they have to. The EJB3 spec requires app-server vendors to support pluggable persistence providers. Review the schema for persistence.xml.]]> Fri, 01 Jul 2005 13:03:31 -0400 Fri, 01 Jul 2005 13:03:31 -0400 Fri, 01 Jul 2005 13:03:31 -0400 Jul 1, 2005 Bill Burke 0 Curious to know... http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=34877
Will Oracle now promote TopLink in favour of BC4J (aka ADF)?

Will development for this application server be closely tied to their IDE, JDeveloper?]]> Fri, 01 Jul 2005 11:46:36 -0400 Fri, 01 Jul 2005 11:46:36 -0400 Fri, 01 Jul 2005 11:46:36 -0400 Jul 1, 2005 T R 1 Why would Oracle want to support something that is gonna die:) http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=34877 And EJBs force you to write senseless object oriented code.
And clustering with entity...]]> Fri, 01 Jul 2005 10:44:19 -0400 Fri, 01 Jul 2005 10:44:19 -0400 Fri, 01 Jul 2005 10:44:19 -0400 Jul 1, 2005 ohIDidntKnowThat ohIDidntKnowThat 3