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1) Saying that other related data such as databases and configuration files are not relevant for the unit testing is complete and utter bullshit. It should be tested to the maximum possible extent. Take for...]]> Fri, 21 Apr 2006 18:35:00 -0400 Fri, 21 Apr 2006 18:35:00 -0400 Fri, 21 Apr 2006 18:35:00 -0400 Apr 21, 2006 Kenneth Kasajian 0 Right on track http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=36502 Sat, 17 Sep 2005 09:02:27 -0400 Sat, 17 Sep 2005 09:02:27 -0400 Sat, 17 Sep 2005 09:02:27 -0400 Sep 17, 2005 fred flintstone 0 A Set of Unit Testing Rules http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=36502 Unlike Paul, I ensure my unit tests typically execute in 0.1 seconds rather than < 60 seconds.
The line I drew was somewhat arbitrary.
On my current project for example we have a few dozen tests which excercise our...]]> Fri, 16 Sep 2005 10:34:50 -0400 Fri, 16 Sep 2005 10:34:50 -0400 Fri, 16 Sep 2005 10:34:50 -0400 Sep 16, 2005 Paul Campbell 0 Unit testing antipatterns http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=36502 http://www.exubero.com/junit/antipatterns.html

This discussion have given me a lot of good...]]> Fri, 16 Sep 2005 05:32:32 -0400 Fri, 16 Sep 2005 05:32:32 -0400 Fri, 16 Sep 2005 05:32:32 -0400 Sep 16, 2005 Joe Schmetzer 0 A Set of Unit Testing Rules http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=36502 2. Unit Tests should be strictly repeatable
3. Unit Tests should not affect other developers


#1 Says if they aren't fast, you will get tired of running them. That's not to say you shouldn't have...]]> Thu, 15 Sep 2005 18:52:15 -0400 Thu, 15 Sep 2005 18:52:15 -0400 Thu, 15 Sep 2005 18:52:15 -0400 Sep 15, 2005 Erik Engbrecht 0 Unit tests too rigid http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=36502 1. Unit tests treat compiled code as the only first class testable unit.2. Unit tests do not hold a solution for composed structures3. Unit "class as king" perspective rigid and actually irrelevant.
The "class...]]> Thu, 15 Sep 2005 14:10:06 -0400 Thu, 15 Sep 2005 14:10:06 -0400 Thu, 15 Sep 2005 14:10:06 -0400 Sep 15, 2005 Michael Galpin 0 A Set of Unit Testing Rules http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=36502 Thu, 15 Sep 2005 12:53:23 -0400 Thu, 15 Sep 2005 12:53:23 -0400 Thu, 15 Sep 2005 12:53:23 -0400 Sep 15, 2005 Helmut Rubasch 0 Actually, as set of &quot;logic&quot; testing rules http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=36502 I do not say that single class tests are worthless, they are quite valuable. Quote from previous post:"This does not of course imply that you shouldn't write a test that tests a single class where applicable, on the...]]> Thu, 15 Sep 2005 10:40:49 -0400 Thu, 15 Sep 2005 10:40:49 -0400 Thu, 15 Sep 2005 10:40:49 -0400 Sep 15, 2005 Mike Dunbar 0 A Set of Unit Testing Rules http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=36502 Thu, 15 Sep 2005 02:59:05 -0400 Thu, 15 Sep 2005 02:59:05 -0400 Thu, 15 Sep 2005 02:59:05 -0400 Sep 15, 2005 Andy Marks 1 Actually, as set of &quot;logic&quot; testing rules http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=36502
"This does not of course imply that you shouldn't write a test that tests a single class where applicable, on the...]]> Thu, 15 Sep 2005 02:01:00 -0400 Thu, 15 Sep 2005 02:01:00 -0400 Thu, 15 Sep 2005 02:01:00 -0400 Sep 15, 2005 Erik Larsson 1 A Set of Unit Testing Rules http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=36502 But another important issue has not been discussed here so far (David Saff pointed this out in Cedric's weblog):
test cases accessing a database, the network or the file system may indicate that the "unit" you are testing is...]]> Wed, 14 Sep 2005 20:57:18 -0400 Wed, 14 Sep 2005 20:57:18 -0400 Wed, 14 Sep 2005 20:57:18 -0400 Sep 14, 2005 Mike Spille 1 A Set of Unit Testing Rules http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=36502
* (automated) tests are good
* not all tests are equal (there are fast tests, slow tests, tests testing one single class,...]]> Wed, 14 Sep 2005 18:41:29 -0400 Wed, 14 Sep 2005 18:41:29 -0400 Wed, 14 Sep 2005 18:41:29 -0400 Sep 14, 2005 Helmut Rubasch 2 Re: Actually, a set of &quot;logic&quot; testing rules http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=36502
Get some kind of automated tests running, trying to cover as much code as possible.

Then only worry about these classifications of "functional test" vs "unit test" vs...]]> Wed, 14 Sep 2005 13:06:27 -0400 Wed, 14 Sep 2005 13:06:27 -0400 Wed, 14 Sep 2005 13:06:27 -0400 Sep 14, 2005 Mike Dunbar 0 Actually, as set of &quot;logic&quot; testing rules http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=36502
exercises a single class in isolation of all others.

Though, I don't see why he says they're becoming obsolete. I think Michael's definition covers a subset of unit tests -...]]> Wed, 14 Sep 2005 12:54:13 -0400 Wed, 14 Sep 2005 12:54:13 -0400 Wed, 14 Sep 2005 12:54:13 -0400 Sep 14, 2005 Mike Dunbar 3 A Set of Unit Testing Rules http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=36502
No code is an island.

/Erik]]> Wed, 14 Sep 2005 08:27:23 -0400 Wed, 14 Sep 2005 08:27:23 -0400 Wed, 14 Sep 2005 08:27:23 -0400 Sep 14, 2005 Erik Larsson 0