http://www.theserverside.com Most recent forum messages en Jive Forums Silver 5.5.30 (www.jivesoftware.com) Wed, 22 May 2013 02:05:08 -0400 http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=37560
WebLogic on 20...]]> Tue, 22 Nov 2005 10:30:16 -0500 Tue, 22 Nov 2005 10:30:16 -0500 Tue, 22 Nov 2005 10:30:16 -0500 Nov 22, 2005 Jacques Talbot 0 http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=37560 ... but $$/JOPS doesn't take in to account the unreported costs of the machines and such. Also, the JOPS/CPU price gives a more definative "which is faster" result.

Will,

First, let me start with the...]]> Mon, 21 Nov 2005 16:31:47 -0500 Mon, 21 Nov 2005 16:31:47 -0500 Mon, 21 Nov 2005 16:31:47 -0500 Nov 21, 2005 Rich Sharples 1 http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=37560 As I blogged recently :http://blogs.sun.com/roller/page/sharps?entry=performance_at_a_costyou can't normalize on CPU - it isn't a universal...]]> Thu, 17 Nov 2005 19:31:00 -0500 Thu, 17 Nov 2005 19:31:00 -0500 Thu, 17 Nov 2005 19:31:00 -0500 Nov 17, 2005 Will Hartung 2 http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=37560
Just take an off the shelf high-end Intel hardware, put a database and the most recent JDK onto it. Then keep this system unchanged for the next 5...]]> Thu, 17 Nov 2005 04:10:12 -0500 Thu, 17 Nov 2005 04:10:12 -0500 Thu, 17 Nov 2005 04:10:12 -0500 Nov 17, 2005 Juergen Weber 0 http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=37560 I like to reduce the JOPS to a JOPS/CPU number
As I blogged recently :

Thu, 17 Nov 2005 01:12:21 -0500 Thu, 17 Nov 2005 01:12:21 -0500 Thu, 17 Nov 2005 01:12:21 -0500 Nov 17, 2005 Rich Sharples 4 http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=37560 (i assume theserverside.com hasn't been acquired by ibm yet).
hey, btw, let's have Hani around too, you know. just in case.]]> Wed, 16 Nov 2005 19:12:20 -0500 Wed, 16 Nov 2005 19:12:20 -0500 Wed, 16 Nov 2005 19:12:20 -0500 Nov 16, 2005 vijay kumar 0 http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=37560
"If IBM could not complete the project, then none of us can be blamed"]]> Wed, 16 Nov 2005 13:57:19 -0500 Wed, 16 Nov 2005 13:57:19 -0500 Wed, 16 Nov 2005 13:57:19 -0500 Nov 16, 2005 Hank Li 1 http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=37560 and then: Wed, 16 Nov 2005 10:56:39 -0500 Wed, 16 Nov 2005 10:56:39 -0500 Wed, 16 Nov 2005 10:56:39 -0500 Nov 16, 2005 Wojtek Serafin 2 http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=37560 ... BEA only used $100k in app server software licenses vs. IBM needing $480,000 in application server software licenses. That’s 4.8x the cost for only 64% more throughput.BEA only consumed $38,000 in hardware on the app server tier...]]> Tue, 15 Nov 2005 16:14:17 -0500 Tue, 15 Nov 2005 16:14:17 -0500 Tue, 15 Nov 2005 16:14:17 -0500 Nov 15, 2005 David Carew 3 http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=37560
I certainly appreciate your point of view and appreciate the questions.

Your first question was about the timing of Sj2004 numbers from BEA. I can assure you that WebLogic Server 8.1 was not "broken". There is a very...]]> Tue, 15 Nov 2005 14:15:24 -0500 Tue, 15 Nov 2005 14:15:24 -0500 Tue, 15 Nov 2005 14:15:24 -0500 Nov 15, 2005 Eric Stahl 0 http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=37560
Now it is WebSphere's turn to claim it is the fastest.

Do you know why Microsoft pickup WebSphere instead of WebLogic to compare with...]]> Tue, 15 Nov 2005 13:45:07 -0500 Tue, 15 Nov 2005 13:45:07 -0500 Tue, 15 Nov 2005 13:45:07 -0500 Nov 15, 2005 Hank Li 0 http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=37560 Tue, 15 Nov 2005 12:18:00 -0500 Tue, 15 Nov 2005 12:18:00 -0500 Tue, 15 Nov 2005 12:18:00 -0500 Nov 15, 2005 J Katz 0 http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=37560 Tue, 15 Nov 2005 12:11:34 -0500 Tue, 15 Nov 2005 12:11:34 -0500 Tue, 15 Nov 2005 12:11:34 -0500 Nov 15, 2005 J Katz 0 http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=37560 This has not been done in the thread, as far as I am able to browse.
I am not with IBM or BEA, just using both.

Reality is vendors are doing everything possible to confuse poor...]]> Tue, 15 Nov 2005 05:27:11 -0500 Tue, 15 Nov 2005 05:27:11 -0500 Tue, 15 Nov 2005 05:27:11 -0500 Nov 15, 2005 Jacques Talbot 0 http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=37560 In the IBM benchmark, the app servers hardware are 8 IBM with 2 processors each(1.9MHz) with 4GB RAM on each.
In the BEA benchmark, the app servers...]]> Tue, 15 Nov 2005 03:50:40 -0500 Tue, 15 Nov 2005 03:50:40 -0500 Tue, 15 Nov 2005 03:50:40 -0500 Nov 15, 2005 bruno chevalier 0