Support Forums: Message List - RFC: REST-RPC http://www.theserverside.com Most recent forum messages en Jive Forums Silver 5.5.30 (www.jivesoftware.com) Wed, 19 Jun 2013 14:01:16 -0400 What a joke! http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=39207
When I saw the encoding that this "new" REST-RPC uses, I almost snorted beer up my nose....]]> Tue, 07 Mar 2006 23:41:30 -0500 Tue, 07 Mar 2006 23:41:30 -0500 Tue, 07 Mar 2006 23:41:30 -0500 Mar 7, 2006 Eron Wright 0 Definitional Problem http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=39207 Sat, 04 Mar 2006 00:06:32 -0500 Sat, 04 Mar 2006 00:06:32 -0500 Sat, 04 Mar 2006 00:06:32 -0500 Mar 4, 2006 Andre Mesarovic 0 for simple use url form encoding http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=39207 Thu, 02 Mar 2006 15:54:57 -0500 Thu, 02 Mar 2006 15:54:57 -0500 Thu, 02 Mar 2006 15:54:57 -0500 Mar 2, 2006 valraven smith 0 REST-RPC an Oxymoran? http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=39207 I was indeed quite confused by this "REST-RPC" title that you gave to this discussion. I'd definitely prefer the "POX-RPC" name which is closer to your original source of inspiration (XML-RPC).
We will...]]> Wed, 01 Mar 2006 16:25:41 -0500 Wed, 01 Mar 2006 16:25:41 -0500 Wed, 01 Mar 2006 16:25:41 -0500 Mar 1, 2006 Ernst de Haan 1 CORBA is easy http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=39207 CORBA, the IBM San Fransisco framework and SOAP fit in the same category. You can do powerful things with them, but it comes with a big cost in terms of complexity and bloat.
CORBA being difficult is a myth. For simple...]]> Wed, 01 Mar 2006 15:43:26 -0500 Wed, 01 Mar 2006 15:43:26 -0500 Wed, 01 Mar 2006 15:43:26 -0500 Mar 1, 2006 Juergen Weber 0 REST != RPC http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=39207
That was my point precisely. If people form the impression that REST means "no documents", REST will be discredited.]]> Wed, 01 Mar 2006 07:45:35 -0500 Wed, 01 Mar 2006 07:45:35 -0500 Wed, 01 Mar 2006 07:45:35 -0500 Mar 1, 2006 vantheip 0 REST-RPC an Oxymoran? http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=39207
I was indeed quite confused by this "REST-RPC" title that you gave to this discussion. I'd definitely prefer the "POX-RPC" name which is closer to your original source of inspiration (XML-RPC).

Also, I don't agree...]]> Wed, 01 Mar 2006 07:25:03 -0500 Wed, 01 Mar 2006 07:25:03 -0500 Wed, 01 Mar 2006 07:25:03 -0500 Mar 1, 2006 Jerome Louvel 2 REST-RPC an Oxymoran? http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=39207 Is this approach RESTful? My understanding is that REST is usually contrasted with RPC based approaches. REST-RPC sounds to my ears like 'procedural object-oriented programming', or military intelligence -- a contradiction in...]]> Wed, 01 Mar 2006 04:31:17 -0500 Wed, 01 Mar 2006 04:31:17 -0500 Wed, 01 Mar 2006 04:31:17 -0500 Mar 1, 2006 Kit Davies 0 REST-RPC an Oxymoran? http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=39207
Is this approach RESTful? My understanding is that REST is usually contrasted with RPC based approaches.

No it's not completely RESTful, indeed. While SOAP is document-oriented, REST is resource-oriented and...]]> Wed, 01 Mar 2006 04:25:29 -0500 Wed, 01 Mar 2006 04:25:29 -0500 Wed, 01 Mar 2006 04:25:29 -0500 Mar 1, 2006 Ernst de Haan 3 RPC is dead, long live RPC? http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=39207 why do you consider a documented-oriented interface a necessity?I don't consider it necessary, I consider it convenient and less maintenance over the long haul. I'm a big fan of one way to get the data - not one way for this...]]> Tue, 28 Feb 2006 17:33:11 -0500 Tue, 28 Feb 2006 17:33:11 -0500 Tue, 28 Feb 2006 17:33:11 -0500 Feb 28, 2006 Adam Spencer 0 RPC is dead, long live RPC? http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=39207 I don't know which RPC technology you are referring to, but with REST-RPC, there is virtually no overhead. Here's an example of a request:
GET /?_function=GetCart&cart=1563 HTTP/1.1Host: test.rest-rpc.orgAccept:...]]> Tue, 28 Feb 2006 17:28:47 -0500 Tue, 28 Feb 2006 17:28:47 -0500 Tue, 28 Feb 2006 17:28:47 -0500 Feb 28, 2006 William Childers 0 REST-RPC an Oxymoran? http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=39207 contrasted with RPC based approaches. REST-RPC sounds to my ears like 'procedural object-oriented programming', or military intelligence -- a contradiction in terms.

With...]]> Tue, 28 Feb 2006 17:20:00 -0500 Tue, 28 Feb 2006 17:20:00 -0500 Tue, 28 Feb 2006 17:20:00 -0500 Feb 28, 2006 Stephen Molitor 5 RPC is dead, long live RPC? http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=39207 How is this different from a regular HTML request with arbitrary character data in response?

Here the difference is the definition of the tags to be used and their meaning. HTML is aimed at visual markup (for display to...]]> Tue, 28 Feb 2006 16:51:28 -0500 Tue, 28 Feb 2006 16:51:28 -0500 Tue, 28 Feb 2006 16:51:28 -0500 Feb 28, 2006 Ernst de Haan 0 Whats the point? http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=39207 Why would you use an REST-RPC when you could just do a REST call returning bespoke XML? Need data types? Use XML Schema or custom DTDs.
Applying plain REST makes sense.

However, defining an RPC protocol gives...]]> Tue, 28 Feb 2006 16:41:57 -0500 Tue, 28 Feb 2006 16:41:57 -0500 Tue, 28 Feb 2006 16:41:57 -0500 Feb 28, 2006 Ernst de Haan 0 RPC is dead, long live RPC? http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=39207 with REST-RPC, there is virtually no overhead. Here's an example of a request:
GET /?_function=GetCart&cart=1563 HTTP/1.1Host: test.rest-rpc.orgAccept: text/xmlConnection: close
An example of a...]]> Tue, 28 Feb 2006 15:58:40 -0500 Tue, 28 Feb 2006 15:58:40 -0500 Tue, 28 Feb 2006 15:58:40 -0500 Feb 28, 2006 Michael Jouravlev 1