Support Forums: Message List - Gavin seems to really dig JSF http://www.theserverside.com Most recent forum messages en Jive Forums Silver 5.5.30 (www.jivesoftware.com) Thu, 23 May 2013 08:25:32 -0400 anti-spec is anti-open source http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=39214 I just wish there were more JSF implementations to be able to quickly compare with their own innovations instead of 5-10 different web frameworks that you have to each learn individually to compare and contrast.
That sounds...]]> Fri, 10 Mar 2006 20:32:41 -0500 Fri, 10 Mar 2006 20:32:41 -0500 Fri, 10 Mar 2006 20:32:41 -0500 Mar 10, 2006 Eelco Hillenius 0 anti-spec is anti-open source http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=39214 One of the biggest things in open source is the ability to communicate and interact with other projects, and the main tool for this is by simply showing the source code.Another method of interaction is to have a common language, or API, to...]]> Fri, 10 Mar 2006 03:51:27 -0500 Fri, 10 Mar 2006 03:51:27 -0500 Fri, 10 Mar 2006 03:51:27 -0500 Mar 10, 2006 Rick Hightower 0 anti-spec is anti-open source http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=39214
Another method of interaction is to have a common language, or API, to...]]> Thu, 09 Mar 2006 10:57:14 -0500 Thu, 09 Mar 2006 10:57:14 -0500 Thu, 09 Mar 2006 10:57:14 -0500 Mar 9, 2006 darren hartford 2 Standards not as important as critical mass... Does JSF have it? http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=39214
Hibernate is one that sees a lot of adoption even without being a standard. Struts is another one that enjoys that status.
In my experience there is a real benefit in being in a position to tell vendor that you need...]]> Wed, 08 Mar 2006 00:37:37 -0500 Wed, 08 Mar 2006 00:37:37 -0500 Wed, 08 Mar 2006 00:37:37 -0500 Mar 8, 2006 Rick Hightower 0 Wordgames - not to bad http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=39214 Wordgames: If you think so.My opinion: Don't let them sell you a x for an u...And it starts right away with pumping (pimping) up things to make them look bigger than they are.
I'm not a fan of JSF, but I'm not an...]]> Tue, 07 Mar 2006 13:34:11 -0500 Tue, 07 Mar 2006 13:34:11 -0500 Tue, 07 Mar 2006 13:34:11 -0500 Mar 7, 2006 Cameron Purdy 0 Standards not as important as critical mass... Does JSF have it? http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=39214 Hibernate is one that sees a lot of adoption even without being a standard. Struts is another one that enjoys that status.
In my experience there is a real benefit in being in a position to tell vendor that you need better...]]> Mon, 06 Mar 2006 14:05:28 -0500 Mon, 06 Mar 2006 14:05:28 -0500 Mon, 06 Mar 2006 14:05:28 -0500 Mar 6, 2006 Steve Zara 1 Standards not as important as critical mass... Does JSF have it? http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=39214
Wordgames: If you think so.My opinion: Don't let them sell you a x for an u...And it starts right away with pumping (pimping) up things to make them look bigger than they are.
Well, my view is that a...]]> Mon, 06 Mar 2006 13:36:32 -0500 Mon, 06 Mar 2006 13:36:32 -0500 Mon, 06 Mar 2006 13:36:32 -0500 Mar 6, 2006 Rick Hightower 2 Wordgames - not to bad http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=39214 Wordgames: If you think so.My opinion: Don't let them sell you a x for an u...And it starts right away with pumping (pimping) up things to make them look bigger than they are.
Well, my view is that a standard/specification...]]> Mon, 06 Mar 2006 10:29:34 -0500 Mon, 06 Mar 2006 10:29:34 -0500 Mon, 06 Mar 2006 10:29:34 -0500 Mar 6, 2006 Steve Zara 3 Wordgames - not to bad http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=39214 My opinion: Don't let them sell you a x for an u...And it starts right away with pumping (pimping) up things to make them look bigger than they are. This was just meant as an introduction for my point to choose carefully...]]> Mon, 06 Mar 2006 09:05:03 -0500 Mon, 06 Mar 2006 09:05:03 -0500 Mon, 06 Mar 2006 09:05:03 -0500 Mar 6, 2006 p huber 5 Standards? Indicators? http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=39214 Hi everybody,One note about the talk about "Standards". "JSF" is not a standard by any means. It's a "Specification" nothing more.Standards are things like those provided by ISO. Even broad adoption isn't enough...]]> Sun, 05 Mar 2006 16:18:17 -0500 Sun, 05 Mar 2006 16:18:17 -0500 Sun, 05 Mar 2006 16:18:17 -0500 Mar 5, 2006 Cameron Purdy 6 tools.... JSF extensibility. http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=39214 I guess that is a natural reaction to percepted FUD campaign against it.
I'd agree. It is the case for me anyway. ;o)]]> Sun, 05 Mar 2006 03:30:33 -0500 Sun, 05 Mar 2006 03:30:33 -0500 Sun, 05 Mar 2006 03:30:33 -0500 Mar 5, 2006 Rick Hightower 0 Standards? Indicators? http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=39214
One note about the talk about "Standards". "JSF" is not a standard by any means. It's a "Specification" nothing more.
Standards are things like those provided by ISO. Even broad adoption isn't enough...]]> Sat, 04 Mar 2006 05:11:25 -0500 Sat, 04 Mar 2006 05:11:25 -0500 Sat, 04 Mar 2006 05:11:25 -0500 Mar 4, 2006 p huber 7 tools.... JSF extensibility. http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=39214
Sorry, but until someone actually puts forward points that they specifically want to raise, I personally consider the term 'design by committee' meaningless.
In the specific case of JSF, the product would have...]]> Fri, 03 Mar 2006 13:38:13 -0500 Fri, 03 Mar 2006 13:38:13 -0500 Fri, 03 Mar 2006 13:38:13 -0500 Mar 3, 2006 Alexandre Poitras 0 tools.... JSF extensibility. http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=39214 Sorry, but until someone actually puts forward points that they specifically want to raise, I personally consider the term 'design by committee' meaningless.
In the specific case of JSF, the product would have benefitted from...]]> Fri, 03 Mar 2006 13:04:56 -0500 Fri, 03 Mar 2006 13:04:56 -0500 Fri, 03 Mar 2006 13:04:56 -0500 Mar 3, 2006 Eelco Hillenius 2 tools.... JSF extensibility. http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=39214
I see so much repeating of slogans like 'design by committee'. 'Design by committee' is not of itself either a good or bad aspect of any standard. (I have seen some awful 'design by individual' products!)
It's not a...]]> Fri, 03 Mar 2006 08:58:48 -0500 Fri, 03 Mar 2006 08:58:48 -0500 Fri, 03 Mar 2006 08:58:48 -0500 Mar 3, 2006 Steve Zara 3