Support Forums: Message List - Owen Taylor on 'Space Based Architecture' http://www.theserverside.com Most recent forum messages en Jive Forums Silver 5.5.30 (www.jivesoftware.com) Thu, 23 May 2013 23:50:57 -0400 Re: Owen Taylor on 'Space Based Architecture' http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=42928 The graph below represents benchmark results conducted with 192 & 1022 partitions to hold 150GB & 1TB data. I believe that the numbers speaks for themselves. We actually been involved in many scenario in which the requirement was to...]]> Wed, 08 Nov 2006 13:51:46 -0500 Wed, 08 Nov 2006 13:51:46 -0500 Wed, 08 Nov 2006 13:51:46 -0500 Nov 8, 2006 John Brand 0 charts http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=42928 Tangosol Coherence: Replicated and Partitioned Caching]]> Wed, 08 Nov 2006 13:12:21 -0500 Wed, 08 Nov 2006 13:12:21 -0500 Wed, 08 Nov 2006 13:12:21 -0500 Nov 8, 2006 Cameron Purdy 0 Re: Owen Taylor on 'Space Based Architecture' http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=42928 Well, there are different kind of performance sensitive actions you could take, some which would benefit from in-memory caching outside of the RDBMS and some which would not. Lets say that you have a long running batch that needs to see and...]]> Wed, 08 Nov 2006 08:46:54 -0500 Wed, 08 Nov 2006 08:46:54 -0500 Wed, 08 Nov 2006 08:46:54 -0500 Nov 8, 2006 Nati Shalom 2 Re: Owen Taylor on 'Space Based Architecture' http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=42928 John I think that were all saying the same thing.
I wanted to emphasize that RDBMS is not a solution for everything and there would be a technology shift in that area. I do believe however that RDBMS will continue to play a major role in...]]> Wed, 08 Nov 2006 03:27:09 -0500 Wed, 08 Nov 2006 03:27:09 -0500 Wed, 08 Nov 2006 03:27:09 -0500 Nov 8, 2006 John Brand 3 Re: Owen Taylor on 'Space Based Architecture' http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=42928 gigaspaces idea of totally replacing the rdbms...]]> Wed, 08 Nov 2006 02:36:04 -0500 Wed, 08 Nov 2006 02:36:04 -0500 Wed, 08 Nov 2006 02:36:04 -0500 Nov 8, 2006 Nati Shalom 4 Re: Owen Taylor on 'Space Based Architecture' http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=42928 Sadly, it only paints part of the picture. It shows the what, but not the how....]]> Tue, 07 Nov 2006 15:50:58 -0500 Tue, 07 Nov 2006 15:50:58 -0500 Tue, 07 Nov 2006 15:50:58 -0500 Nov 7, 2006 John Brand 0 Re: Owen Taylor on 'Space Based Architecture' http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=42928 Raymond once wrote, "inspired" by Brooks, that:

"Show me your code and conceal your data structures, and I shall continue to be mystified. Show me your data structures, and I won't usually need your code; it'll be obvious."

For...]]> Tue, 07 Nov 2006 14:50:44 -0500 Tue, 07 Nov 2006 14:50:44 -0500 Tue, 07 Nov 2006 14:50:44 -0500 Nov 7, 2006 Mark N 1 Re: Owen Taylor on 'Space Based Architecture' http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=42928
Now, what Cameron says, i.e. a best of breed cache on top of a rdbms for persistence, is a much more believable story, and much easier to sell to most customer that I know something about, compared to the gigaspaces idea of...]]> Tue, 07 Nov 2006 14:08:44 -0500 Tue, 07 Nov 2006 14:08:44 -0500 Tue, 07 Nov 2006 14:08:44 -0500 Nov 7, 2006 John Brand 2 Re: Owen Taylor on 'Space Based Architecture' http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=42928 Try to get someone to do a Use Case without a line that says "save to database". :)
...]]> Tue, 07 Nov 2006 14:07:38 -0500 Tue, 07 Nov 2006 14:07:38 -0500 Tue, 07 Nov 2006 14:07:38 -0500 Nov 7, 2006 George De La Torre 0 Re: Owen Taylor on 'Space Based Architecture' http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=42928 Now, what Cameron says, i.e. a best of breed cache on top of a rdbms for persistence, is a much more believable story, and much easier to sell to most customer that I know something about, compared to the gigaspaces idea of totally replacing...]]> Tue, 07 Nov 2006 13:49:33 -0500 Tue, 07 Nov 2006 13:49:33 -0500 Tue, 07 Nov 2006 13:49:33 -0500 Nov 7, 2006 Mark N 4 Re: Owen Taylor on 'Space Based Architecture' http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=42928 The end result, in most cases, is that the information is managed for the long term in the safest and most accessible place, which is often an HA RDBMS with an HA SAN for its underlying storage. And while it may be a "niche" market, that...]]> Tue, 07 Nov 2006 12:52:32 -0500 Tue, 07 Nov 2006 12:52:32 -0500 Tue, 07 Nov 2006 12:52:32 -0500 Nov 7, 2006 John Brand 10 Re: Owen Taylor on 'Space Based Architecture' http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=42928 Tue, 07 Nov 2006 11:58:46 -0500 Tue, 07 Nov 2006 11:58:46 -0500 Tue, 07 Nov 2006 11:58:46 -0500 Nov 7, 2006 Billy Newport 0 Re: Owen Taylor on 'Space Based Architecture' http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=42928 Yes, but if the logic was that every new technology that came along and got backing from some major company, would eventually replace the preeceding technology, then we would have already forgotten about RDBMS [..]...]]> Tue, 07 Nov 2006 10:12:07 -0500 Tue, 07 Nov 2006 10:12:07 -0500 Tue, 07 Nov 2006 10:12:07 -0500 Nov 7, 2006 Cameron Purdy 12 Re: Owen Taylor on 'Space Based Architecture' http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=42928 If we follow the logic that old technology (e.g., RDBMS) will never be replaced by new technology because so much has been invested in the old, we would never see any innovative technology being adopted, which is clearly not the...]]> Tue, 07 Nov 2006 09:18:03 -0500 Tue, 07 Nov 2006 09:18:03 -0500 Tue, 07 Nov 2006 09:18:03 -0500 Nov 7, 2006 John Brand 13 Re: Owen Taylor on 'Space Based Architecture' http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=42928 If we follow the logic that old technology (e.g., RDBMS) will never be replaced by new technology because so much has been invested in the old, we would never see any innovative technology being adopted, which is clearly not the case. When...]]> Mon, 06 Nov 2006 20:15:34 -0500 Mon, 06 Nov 2006 20:15:34 -0500 Mon, 06 Nov 2006 20:15:34 -0500 Nov 6, 2006 Mark N 0