Support Forums: Message List - Avoiding the Quagmire - Part II of Ted Neward's Vietnam paper http://www.theserverside.com Most recent forum messages en Jive Forums Silver 5.5.30 (www.jivesoftware.com) Tue, 21 May 2013 04:51:16 -0400 Re: Avoiding the Quagmire - Part II of Ted Neward's Vietnam pape http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=45523 It does you no favours using the Vietnam war as an analogy in making a point about any aspect of computer science. Try re-naming your articles. After all I am sure from a Vietnamese point of view the 'quagmire' was a total...]]> Sun, 29 Jul 2007 22:20:02 -0400 Sun, 29 Jul 2007 22:20:02 -0400 Sun, 29 Jul 2007 22:20:02 -0400 Jul 29, 2007 Ted Neward 0 Re: ODBMS, ORM -- It's a matter of context http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=45523
The thing to remember is that a "database" is addressing *two* primary needs 1) persistence and 2) location/lookup.


What about data integrity?

I personally find it comforting when a database refuses to...]]> Wed, 30 May 2007 11:16:03 -0400 Wed, 30 May 2007 11:16:03 -0400 Wed, 30 May 2007 11:16:03 -0400 May 30, 2007 Paul Campbell 0 Re: Clarifications http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=45523 Wed, 30 May 2007 08:21:04 -0400 Wed, 30 May 2007 08:21:04 -0400 Wed, 30 May 2007 08:21:04 -0400 May 30, 2007 qwert 0 Re: Clarifications http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=45523

Six, I find it ironic and/or somehow fitting that you, Cameron, are asking about corporate sponsorships. :-)
Now, as the first-poser said, let the flaming continue....

I think Cameron's point is perfectly...]]> Mon, 28 May 2007 08:02:09 -0400 Mon, 28 May 2007 08:02:09 -0400 Mon, 28 May 2007 08:02:09 -0400 May 28, 2007 Ted Neward 1 Re: ODBMS, ORM -- It's a matter of context http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=45523


Well, offering a better alternative to flat files and serialization is a whole lot different that solving the struggle as in:

"For almost a full decade now, the Java community has struggled with the...]]> Sat, 26 May 2007 08:09:57 -0400 Sat, 26 May 2007 08:09:57 -0400 Sat, 26 May 2007 08:09:57 -0400 May 26, 2007 John Brand 0 Re: Avoiding the Quagmire - Part II of Ted Neward's Vietnam paper http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=45523 Fri, 25 May 2007 09:39:13 -0400 Fri, 25 May 2007 09:39:13 -0400 Fri, 25 May 2007 09:39:13 -0400 May 25, 2007 Code Flunki 1 Re: ODBMS, ORM -- It's a matter of context http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=45523


Well, offering a better alternative to flat files and serialization is a whole lot different that solving the struggle as in:

"For almost a full decade now, the Java community has struggled with the...]]> Fri, 25 May 2007 09:02:13 -0400 Fri, 25 May 2007 09:02:13 -0400 Fri, 25 May 2007 09:02:13 -0400 May 25, 2007 peter lin 0 Re: Avoiding the Quagmire - Part II of Ted Neward's Vietnam pape http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=45523 ...I'm very interested in having an Application Database based on something like a direct persistence layer DB40 berkley etc... , but then have my domain model export itself nightly to a datawarehouse for reporting purposes.

If you...]]> Fri, 25 May 2007 04:20:36 -0400 Fri, 25 May 2007 04:20:36 -0400 Fri, 25 May 2007 04:20:36 -0400 May 25, 2007 gerps1 0 Re: ODBMS, ORM -- It's a matter of context http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=45523

Well, offering a better alternative to flat files and serialization is a whole lot different that solving the struggle as in:

"For almost a full decade now, the Java community has struggled with the Object/Relational impedance...]]> Thu, 24 May 2007 21:57:58 -0400 Thu, 24 May 2007 21:57:58 -0400 Thu, 24 May 2007 21:57:58 -0400 May 24, 2007 Christof Wittig 2 It can be fixed by upgrading http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=45523 Thu, 24 May 2007 13:18:31 -0400 Thu, 24 May 2007 13:18:31 -0400 Thu, 24 May 2007 13:18:31 -0400 May 24, 2007 hacking bear 0 Re: ODBMS, ORM -- It's a matter of context http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=45523 The thing to remember is that a "database" is addressing *two* primary needs 1) persistence and 2) location/lookup.
...]]> Thu, 24 May 2007 13:13:55 -0400 Thu, 24 May 2007 13:13:55 -0400 Thu, 24 May 2007 13:13:55 -0400 May 24, 2007 Erik Engbrecht 1 Re: ODBMS, ORM -- It's a matter of context http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=45523 Thu, 24 May 2007 11:39:45 -0400 Thu, 24 May 2007 11:39:45 -0400 Thu, 24 May 2007 11:39:45 -0400 May 24, 2007 Paul Campbell 2 Re: Clarifications http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=45523 Tangosol Coherence: The Java Data Grid...]]> Thu, 24 May 2007 11:30:36 -0400 Thu, 24 May 2007 11:30:36 -0400 Thu, 24 May 2007 11:30:36 -0400 May 24, 2007 valraven smith 0 Re: ODBMS, ORM -- It's a matter of context http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=45523
And if you look out there you can find a huge amount of clever papers (not only Teds) and books (and not only my books) that show the advantages of OODBMS in SPECIFIC areas!

This is an important...]]> Thu, 24 May 2007 09:03:22 -0400 Thu, 24 May 2007 09:03:22 -0400 Thu, 24 May 2007 09:03:22 -0400 May 24, 2007 John Brand 6 Re: Avoiding the Quagmire - Part II of Ted Neward's Vietnam pape http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=45523
...Ted is an independent consultant

Independent ?
What does it means ?...

It denotes someone working for a separate company that offers consulting or contracting services to...]]> Thu, 24 May 2007 08:47:17 -0400 Thu, 24 May 2007 08:47:17 -0400 Thu, 24 May 2007 08:47:17 -0400 May 24, 2007 Guido Anzuoni 0