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        <title>A missed post.</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=48373</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[Hi....]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Wed, 26 Mar 2008 11:36:51 -0400</pubDate>

        

        <jf:creationDate>Wed, 26 Mar 2008 11:36:51 -0400</jf:creationDate>
        <jf:modificationDate>Wed, 26 Mar 2008 11:36:51 -0400</jf:modificationDate>
        <jf:date>Mar 26, 2008</jf:date>
        <jf:author>William Martinez</jf:author>
        <jf:replyCount>0</jf:replyCount>
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        <title>Example of type system code contortion (Java)</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=48373</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[<blockquote>Hi Paul.  I thought you might pop in on this thread...<br><br><blockquote>The problem is what happens when the type system doesn't allow you to express what you want?<br></blockquote><br>I'd really like to see an example, because in my...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Wed, 13 Feb 2008 08:50:46 -0500</pubDate>

        

        <jf:creationDate>Wed, 13 Feb 2008 08:50:46 -0500</jf:creationDate>
        <jf:modificationDate>Wed, 13 Feb 2008 08:50:46 -0500</jf:modificationDate>
        <jf:date>Feb 13, 2008</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Eivind Eklund</jf:author>
        <jf:replyCount>0</jf:replyCount>
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        <title>Re: Also...</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=48373</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[Regarding (String, int) vs. Person(name, age): this is more of a difference between structural and nominal types, rather than dynamic and static typing, as explained in the fine document that Erik provided <a...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Wed, 13 Feb 2008 04:54:39 -0500</pubDate>

        

        <jf:creationDate>Wed, 13 Feb 2008 04:54:39 -0500</jf:creationDate>
        <jf:modificationDate>Wed, 13 Feb 2008 04:54:39 -0500</jf:modificationDate>
        <jf:date>Feb 13, 2008</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Panagiotis Astithas</jf:author>
        <jf:replyCount>0</jf:replyCount>
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        <title>Re: Also...</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=48373</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[<blockquote><blockquote>I'm sure Steve Yegge would probably say the same since he invented Scheme. </blockquote><br><br>Don't tell that to Guy Steele and Gerald Sussman.</blockquote>

Is Guy Steele the Scheme guy? Thanks for the correction.

Paul.]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Tue, 12 Feb 2008 18:45:32 -0500</pubDate>

        

        <jf:creationDate>Tue, 12 Feb 2008 18:45:32 -0500</jf:creationDate>
        <jf:modificationDate>Tue, 12 Feb 2008 18:45:32 -0500</jf:modificationDate>
        <jf:date>Feb 12, 2008</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Paul Beckford</jf:author>
        <jf:replyCount>0</jf:replyCount>
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        <title>With limited tools use workarounds</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=48373</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[With Java returning multiple values is not supported directly....]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Tue, 12 Feb 2008 18:18:40 -0500</pubDate>

        

        <jf:creationDate>Tue, 12 Feb 2008 18:18:40 -0500</jf:creationDate>
        <jf:modificationDate>Tue, 12 Feb 2008 18:18:40 -0500</jf:modificationDate>
        <jf:date>Feb 12, 2008</jf:date>
        <jf:author>art src</jf:author>
        <jf:replyCount>0</jf:replyCount>
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        <title>Re: Also...</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=48373</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[<blockquote>I'm sure Steve Yegge would probably say the same since he invented Scheme. </blockquote>

Don't tell that to Guy Steele and Gerald Sussman.]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Tue, 12 Feb 2008 17:28:48 -0500</pubDate>

        

        <jf:creationDate>Tue, 12 Feb 2008 17:28:48 -0500</jf:creationDate>
        <jf:modificationDate>Tue, 12 Feb 2008 17:28:48 -0500</jf:modificationDate>
        <jf:date>Feb 12, 2008</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Erik Engbrecht</jf:author>
        <jf:replyCount>1</jf:replyCount>
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        <title>Re: Also...</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=48373</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[<blockquote>I'd really like to see an example, because in my experience, failing to express something in a language is usually more a failure of the developer than of the language.</blockquote>...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Tue, 12 Feb 2008 17:04:02 -0500</pubDate>

        

        <jf:creationDate>Tue, 12 Feb 2008 17:04:02 -0500</jf:creationDate>
        <jf:modificationDate>Tue, 12 Feb 2008 17:04:02 -0500</jf:modificationDate>
        <jf:date>Feb 12, 2008</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Erik Engbrecht</jf:author>
        <jf:replyCount>0</jf:replyCount>
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        <title>Re: Also...</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=48373</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[<blockquote>Good so we are in agreement :) What do you think about Steves article?</blockquote>...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Tue, 12 Feb 2008 16:46:35 -0500</pubDate>

        

        <jf:creationDate>Tue, 12 Feb 2008 16:46:35 -0500</jf:creationDate>
        <jf:modificationDate>Tue, 12 Feb 2008 16:46:35 -0500</jf:modificationDate>
        <jf:date>Feb 12, 2008</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Erik Engbrecht</jf:author>
        <jf:replyCount>0</jf:replyCount>
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        <title>Re: Also...</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=48373</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[<blockquote>Hi Paul.  I thought you might pop in on this thread...<br><br><blockquote>The problem is what happens when the type system doesn't allow you to express what you want?<br></blockquote><br>I'd really like to see an example, because in my...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Tue, 12 Feb 2008 16:12:58 -0500</pubDate>

        

        <jf:creationDate>Tue, 12 Feb 2008 16:12:58 -0500</jf:creationDate>
        <jf:modificationDate>Tue, 12 Feb 2008 16:12:58 -0500</jf:modificationDate>
        <jf:date>Feb 12, 2008</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Paul Beckford</jf:author>
        <jf:replyCount>3</jf:replyCount>
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        <title>Re: Also...</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=48373</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[Hi Paul.  I thought you might pop in on this thread......]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Tue, 12 Feb 2008 15:30:01 -0500</pubDate>

        

        <jf:creationDate>Tue, 12 Feb 2008 15:30:01 -0500</jf:creationDate>
        <jf:modificationDate>Tue, 12 Feb 2008 15:30:01 -0500</jf:modificationDate>
        <jf:date>Feb 12, 2008</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Cedric Beust</jf:author>
        <jf:replyCount>6</jf:replyCount>
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        <title>Hey Paul and Erik</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=48373</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[Wtf guys?   Are you really going to sit here and go back and forth in a 200 reply thread again?  It's so f-ing annoying......]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Tue, 12 Feb 2008 14:47:43 -0500</pubDate>

        

        <jf:creationDate>Tue, 12 Feb 2008 14:47:43 -0500</jf:creationDate>
        <jf:modificationDate>Tue, 12 Feb 2008 14:47:43 -0500</jf:modificationDate>
        <jf:date>Feb 12, 2008</jf:date>
        <jf:author>jkuhnert</jf:author>
        <jf:replyCount>0</jf:replyCount>
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        <title>Re: Also...</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=48373</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[<blockquote><br>Where does it say anything about memory access?</blockquote>...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Tue, 12 Feb 2008 14:08:23 -0500</pubDate>

        

        <jf:creationDate>Tue, 12 Feb 2008 14:08:23 -0500</jf:creationDate>
        <jf:modificationDate>Tue, 12 Feb 2008 14:08:23 -0500</jf:modificationDate>
        <jf:date>Feb 12, 2008</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Paul Beckford</jf:author>
        <jf:replyCount>2</jf:replyCount>
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        <title>Re: Also...</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=48373</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[From c2 article:...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Tue, 12 Feb 2008 14:01:13 -0500</pubDate>

        

        <jf:creationDate>Tue, 12 Feb 2008 14:01:13 -0500</jf:creationDate>
        <jf:modificationDate>Tue, 12 Feb 2008 14:01:13 -0500</jf:modificationDate>
        <jf:date>Feb 12, 2008</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Erik Engbrecht</jf:author>
        <jf:replyCount>3</jf:replyCount>
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        <title>Type safety confusion</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=48373</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[Hi Erik,...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Tue, 12 Feb 2008 13:46:12 -0500</pubDate>

        

        <jf:creationDate>Tue, 12 Feb 2008 13:46:12 -0500</jf:creationDate>
        <jf:modificationDate>Tue, 12 Feb 2008 13:46:12 -0500</jf:modificationDate>
        <jf:date>Feb 12, 2008</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Paul Beckford</jf:author>
        <jf:replyCount>0</jf:replyCount>
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        <title>Re: Also...</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=48373</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[Hi Erik,...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Tue, 12 Feb 2008 13:26:20 -0500</pubDate>

        

        <jf:creationDate>Tue, 12 Feb 2008 13:26:20 -0500</jf:creationDate>
        <jf:modificationDate>Tue, 12 Feb 2008 13:26:20 -0500</jf:modificationDate>
        <jf:date>Feb 12, 2008</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Paul Beckford</jf:author>
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