Support Forums: Message List - New Article: What is an App Server? http://www.theserverside.com Most recent forum messages en Jive Forums Silver 5.5.30 (www.jivesoftware.com) Thu, 23 May 2013 18:39:02 -0400 You said it! http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=50531 Fri, 24 Oct 2008 04:33:27 -0400 Fri, 24 Oct 2008 04:33:27 -0400 Fri, 24 Oct 2008 04:33:27 -0400 Oct 24, 2008 Gopi Nathan 0 Web Services Application Server? http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=50531 Tue, 23 Sep 2008 21:46:51 -0400 Tue, 23 Sep 2008 21:46:51 -0400 Tue, 23 Sep 2008 21:46:51 -0400 Sep 23, 2008 Afkham Azeez 0 Re: New Article: What is a Transaction Server? http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=50531
Where JEE screwed up was in not adopting an accepted standard for distributed communication: CORBA (Well, accepted by everyone but MS, who were still clinging to COM).

Instead, Sun tried to push Java everywhere with RMI,...]]> Fri, 05 Sep 2008 15:24:17 -0400 Fri, 05 Sep 2008 15:24:17 -0400 Fri, 05 Sep 2008 15:24:17 -0400 Sep 5, 2008 Mark Woyna 0 Re: New Article: What is an App Server? http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=50531
Transactions could not flow across products from different vendors. J2EE has similar problems.


Maybe I'm missing your point, but the Java EE specs. mandate the CORBA / IIOP, OTS, INS, and SOAP / WS-* standards...]]> Fri, 05 Sep 2008 15:15:23 -0400 Fri, 05 Sep 2008 15:15:23 -0400 Fri, 05 Sep 2008 15:15:23 -0400 Sep 5, 2008 William Childers 0 Clarification http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=50531 If you're using an app server like Glassfish, you're not even saving much overhead - Glassfish would start the general appserver services, and then JMS, and... that's it.
...]]> Fri, 05 Sep 2008 13:54:19 -0400 Fri, 05 Sep 2008 13:54:19 -0400 Fri, 05 Sep 2008 13:54:19 -0400 Sep 5, 2008 GuyPardon 0 Re: New Article: What is a Transaction Server? http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=50531 Where JEE screwed up was in not adopting an accepted standard for distributed communication: CORBA (Well, accepted by everyone but MS, who were still clinging to COM).

Instead, Sun tried to push Java everywhere with RMI, which wasn't...]]> Fri, 05 Sep 2008 13:52:55 -0400 Fri, 05 Sep 2008 13:52:55 -0400 Fri, 05 Sep 2008 13:52:55 -0400 Sep 5, 2008 Jim Knutson 1 Re: New Article: What is an App Server? http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=50531 Transactions could not flow across products from different vendors. J2EE has similar problems....]]> Fri, 05 Sep 2008 13:27:06 -0400 Fri, 05 Sep 2008 13:27:06 -0400 Fri, 05 Sep 2008 13:27:06 -0400 Sep 5, 2008 Jim Knutson 1 Re: Transactional J2EE without Appserver http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=50531 Guy, it's an interesting paper -- but you built an application with JMS. The function of an application server is to contain services like JMS; I would say that you haven't eliminated the application server, you've just decided not to use...]]> Fri, 05 Sep 2008 11:11:29 -0400 Fri, 05 Sep 2008 11:11:29 -0400 Fri, 05 Sep 2008 11:11:29 -0400 Sep 5, 2008 James Watson 0 made my day http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=50531 "Hey, let's not buy this mainframe that comes equipped with a transaction manager and a proper database, let's buy 10.000 PCs instead and wire them all up, put some databases on a couple of more reliable Unix systems, figure out a cool backup...]]> Fri, 05 Sep 2008 09:07:10 -0400 Fri, 05 Sep 2008 09:07:10 -0400 Fri, 05 Sep 2008 09:07:10 -0400 Sep 5, 2008 Ulf Gohde 0 What goes around comes around http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=50531 The interesting thing is how the App Server has evolved over time. Specifically, the concept that we even NEED an "App Server....]]> Fri, 05 Sep 2008 06:13:26 -0400 Fri, 05 Sep 2008 06:13:26 -0400 Fri, 05 Sep 2008 06:13:26 -0400 Sep 5, 2008 Karl Banke 1 Re: Transactional J2EE without Appserver http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=50531
The interesting thing is how the App Server has evolved over time. Specifically, the concept that we even NEED an "App Server".


Exactly. In a way, the appserver is to development what the mainframe batch...]]> Fri, 05 Sep 2008 04:49:48 -0400 Fri, 05 Sep 2008 04:49:48 -0400 Fri, 05 Sep 2008 04:49:48 -0400 Sep 5, 2008 Joseph Ottinger 2 Transactional J2EE without Appserver http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=50531 The interesting thing is how the App Server has evolved over time. Specifically, the concept that we even NEED an "App Server"....]]> Fri, 05 Sep 2008 03:46:12 -0400 Fri, 05 Sep 2008 03:46:12 -0400 Fri, 05 Sep 2008 03:46:12 -0400 Sep 5, 2008 GuyPardon 3 Re: New Article: What is a Transaction Server? http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=50531 Thu, 04 Sep 2008 13:09:58 -0400 Thu, 04 Sep 2008 13:09:58 -0400 Thu, 04 Sep 2008 13:09:58 -0400 Sep 4, 2008 Mark Woyna 2 Re: New Article: What is a Transaction Server? http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=50531 Well, I only heard on the term transaction within the context of RDBMS, a transaction is a group of SQl statement, who act as one, so there are either committed all, or none, you can also specify certain data visibility rule for this...]]> Thu, 04 Sep 2008 12:55:36 -0400 Thu, 04 Sep 2008 12:55:36 -0400 Thu, 04 Sep 2008 12:55:36 -0400 Sep 4, 2008 Will Hartung 0 Re: New Article: What is a Transaction Server? http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=50531 Thu, 04 Sep 2008 09:18:39 -0400 Thu, 04 Sep 2008 09:18:39 -0400 Thu, 04 Sep 2008 09:18:39 -0400 Sep 4, 2008 Ulf Gohde 3