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        <title>Re: JGroups 2.8.0.GA released</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=58266</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[<p>&nbsp;<a href="http://dizaynrestorasyon.com" target="_blank">Karo silimi</a>&nbsp;<a href="http://dizaynrestorasyon.com/#cini-silimi" target="_blank">&ccedil;ini silimi</a>&nbsp;&nbsp;Dizayn Restorasyon Karo Silimi Karo Silimi hakkinda teknik...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Thu, 07 Mar 2013 03:58:17 -0500</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Mar 7, 2013</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Karo Silimi Desenli karo Çini</jf:author>
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        <title>ORM overrated</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=58266</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[<p>objec relational mapping is a vastly overrated 'solution' to an overstated 'problem'</p>...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Mon, 26 Jul 2010 14:37:36 -0400</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Jul 26, 2010</jf:date>
        <jf:author>the floidster</jf:author>
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        <title>iBatis is better</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=58266</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[Yet another toy ORM; from too complex to too simple....]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Fri, 06 Nov 2009 16:36:04 -0500</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Nov 6, 2009</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Inf ernoz</jf:author>
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        <title>Re: JDO solved all of these issues years ago</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=58266</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[<blockquote>The guys who nutted out the JDO standard many years ago were some of the smartest Java dudes on the planet. It's interesting that it's only in recent years that a ground swell of developers are starting to look for solutions to issues that...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Fri, 30 Oct 2009 11:01:59 -0400</pubDate>

        

        <jf:creationDate>Fri, 30 Oct 2009 11:01:59 -0400</jf:creationDate>
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        <jf:date>Oct 30, 2009</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Robert Greene</jf:author>
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        <title>Re: If you really want simplicity</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=58266</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[<blockquote>Looking at the "Making ORM Simple" blog posting, things don't appear to be as simple to me as they could be. The "simple" explanation of Kauklahti takes up 5 vertical screens of my browser.<br><br> I can explain <a...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Wed, 28 Oct 2009 16:07:17 -0400</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Oct 28, 2009</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Tomi Tuomainen</jf:author>
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        <title>The creator is right!</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=58266</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[Hi folks...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Wed, 28 Oct 2009 05:47:56 -0400</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Oct 28, 2009</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Sandro Orlando</jf:author>
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        <title>Re: JDO solved all of these issues years ago</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=58266</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[<blockquote>Does this framework support "Detached state"? If not, what is the equivalent way of doing it? Thanks.</blockquote>
Yes

Guido]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Wed, 28 Oct 2009 04:12:25 -0400</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Oct 28, 2009</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Guido Anzuoni</jf:author>
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        <title>Re: JDO solved all of these issues years ago</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=58266</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[Does this framework support "Detached state"? If not, what is the equivalent way of doing it? Thanks.]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Wed, 28 Oct 2009 01:00:13 -0400</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Oct 28, 2009</jf:date>
        <jf:author>James Tan</jf:author>
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        <title>JDO solved all of these issues years ago</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=58266</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[JDO came and saw and conquered all of these issues years ago:...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Tue, 27 Oct 2009 18:39:13 -0400</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Oct 27, 2009</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Chris Golfman</jf:author>
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        <title>In Vietnam, they call it &quot;The American War of Aggression&quot;</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=58266</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[In Vietnam, they call it "The American War of Aggression"... In other words, perspective is everything....]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Tue, 27 Oct 2009 15:04:01 -0400</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Oct 27, 2009</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Brian Topping</jf:author>
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        <title>Choose the 'O' or the 'R' .. I like it.</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=58266</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[<blockquote>"Personally, I think the only workable solution to the ORM problem is to pick one or the other: either abandon relational databases, or abandon objects. If you take the O or the R out of the equation, you no longer have a mapping...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Tue, 27 Oct 2009 14:51:46 -0400</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Oct 27, 2009</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Robert Greene</jf:author>
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        <title>Apache Empire-db can do it too</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=58266</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[<blockquote>"Object-Relational mapping is the Vietnam of our industry"<br>The war you cannot win.</blockquote>...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Tue, 27 Oct 2009 14:21:35 -0400</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Oct 27, 2009</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Rainer D??bele</jf:author>
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        <title>Re: ODBMS - The ulitmate replacement</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=58266</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[Depends on which product....]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Tue, 27 Oct 2009 13:39:41 -0400</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Oct 27, 2009</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Robert Greene</jf:author>
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        <title>Re: ODBMS - The ulitmate replacement</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=58266</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[Sounds great. So how much is the licence cost?]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Tue, 27 Oct 2009 05:36:03 -0400</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Oct 27, 2009</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Code Flunki</jf:author>
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        <title>Re: Can we PLEASE stop making new persistence frameworks?</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=58266</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[<blockquote>Just to clarify: You are correct that I only present my opinions on hibernate and iBatis in the ORM wars </blockquote>...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Tue, 27 Oct 2009 04:08:13 -0400</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Oct 27, 2009</jf:date>
        <jf:author>^C^ ^C^</jf:author>
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