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            <description><![CDATA[<p>Dave when I said JavaScript I was thinking in server (Node.js), in client JavaScript is here for a while and wil be here for many years to come (I learned JS many years ago).</p>...]]></description>
        

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            <description><![CDATA[<p>Dave, the base of your affirmation is there are tons of BETTER languages out there better than Java and only lazy people don't make the effort to learn... but the answer is NOT.</p>...]]></description>
        

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        <title>RE: Programming language evolvement</title>
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        <title>Programming language evolvement</title>
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            <description><![CDATA[<p>To be honest, I'm afraid what for instance lambda expressions would have in store for Java. Yes very convenient and powerful when used correctly, but devastating when abused by less capable programmers. I think some limitations are actually protecting...]]></description>
        

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            <description><![CDATA[<p>To be honest, I'm afraid what for instance lambda expressions would have in store for Java. Yes very convenient and powerful when used correctly, but devastating when abused by less capable programmers. I think some limitations are actually protecting...]]></description>
        

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        <title>Learning new languages was normal back then</title>
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            <description><![CDATA[<p>I took for granted my rapid progression from Pascal to 68000 assembly to C to C++ to Java. Coders I knew who resisted new languages just coludn't "get" procedural or OO languages. Those pre-Java languages were easy to leave because they only had a few...]]></description>
        

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        <title>RE: revisionist history - by Frank</title>
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        <title>Revisionist history?</title>
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